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post #1 of 25
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1. What is your budget?
<$200, preferably $150

2. What screen resolution are you playing at?
1366x768 I believe

3. What games will be played?
99% flight sims such as IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover (single player)

*Parts required: mobo, cpu, gpu, ram, and maybe psu (i can't remember the wattage)

[Parts I don't need: hdd, case (i believe the case he has is ATX), monitor, k/m, W7, cd drive]

Would like to purchase from Newegg, TigerDirect or Amazon preferably.

Hey guys and gals, I'm looking to put together a really cheap computer for a friend. And yes, I mean extremely cheap. I'm fine with buying used hardware, I would rather get new if possible.

I realize that this budget seems almost impossible, but the computer he is using now is a single core AMD something, 2GB of RAM, and an AGP Geforce 6200. So anything will be quite the upgrade.

High settings are NOT required, but I would like to get him up to at least the Med-Low level, if not Med entirely.

I was looking at APUs but don't have very much knowledge as to how they perform at all. Although I posted this in the AMD section, I am open to Intel builds as well, provided they stay within the tight constraints.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance.
Edited by Dekaewt - 10/14/12 at 9:48pm
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post #2 of 25
depending on where you are buying from, try piecing something along the lines of locked a8-llano or a8/a10 trinity with an a55 mobo
a8-3850 -$95
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942
asus a55 matx -$64
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131796
2x2gb 1866 ram -$24
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148559

Prices in Can, motherboard has a MIR thats not included in price. better deals can be had as well, did that quickly.
I also seem to have forgotten psu. This is sub 150w system, so anything reliable should work.
Fm2 wont get cpu/mobo/ram/psu, under 200 with a decent setup.

change mobo to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138349 if the MIR of the asus isn't acceptable to get the price down to include psu, and add your choice of used/new power supply.
Edited by Yeroon - 10/14/12 at 9:49pm
post #3 of 25
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I spose I should've mentioned that I would like to purchase the items from Newegg, TigerDirect, or Amazon. There is also a MicroCenter about 2 hours away if the deal is worth the drive.

That build does look very good. I didn't expect to be able to get in an A8. Are there any other mobo's just as good that don't have a MIR? I'd like to stay away from having to deal with those if I can.
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How would the A6-3500 compare to the A8-3850? Would it be worth it to just spend the $25 and get the quad core? I'm assuming so.. Would be better in the long run as newer games come out.

Also, what wattage psu would you recommend? Something in the 250-300 watt range?
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post #5 of 25
yup, see edit. I don't know any good/cheap psu's so no recommendation there. 3850 stock with a hdd should stay well below 200w, so almost anything reliable would be fine.

Yeroon
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post #8 of 25
I am pretty sure most flight sims do better with single threaded performance. You may want to look into a used Sandybridge Pentium Dual core with a 7750 or similar, that will give you about the same graphical performance as an A8 w/ 6670, but it will have much better single threaded performance.
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post #9 of 25
I'm not sure which one will produce more FPS but the FM2 is more future-ready plus may have the slightly better GPU over the quad core FM1:

AMD A6-3650 + Biostar A75MG - $143 shipped, $15 rebate
Team Xtreme Dark 2x2GB DDR3-1600 - $23 shipped [Newegg]

$166 shipped - $141 after rebate


AMD A6-5400k + ASRock A55 board
- $120 shipped [Newegg]
Team Xtreme Dark 2x2GB DDR3-1600 - $23 shipped [Newegg]

$143 shipped

Alternatively, though at higher cost (but worthwhile IMO)

AMD A8-5600k + ASRock A55 board - $156 shipped [Newegg]
Crucial Ballistix 2x2GB DDR3-1866 - $25 shipped [Newegg]

$181 shipped

A new PSU probably won't be required for an efficient APU.
post #10 of 25
Missed the question about the a8 vs a6- tri core
The a6 loses about 30% gpu performance compared to the a8, probably more in cpu but the gpu is where the goal seems to be.

Any a8 will have the 400 shaders/600mhz clock, a6 goes down to 320/443. 1866 mem is important to the gpu, so if you do find other deals on the sites you would pick from, try to keep the mem speed up. Timings isn't as big a deal for the igpu, but the cpu will benefit from lower timings.
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