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post #21 of 482
10/15/12 at 8:21am
The Text sounds like it has the same Texture as the Taipan and the curve on the right side on the ergonomic design Pic looks a bit like it has an (Rubber)inlay. But i could be all wrong.

Btw. what took Razer and Avago so long, its months since the new SROM of the ADNS-3090 is out, because Razer and DPI and so on.
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post #22 of 482
10/15/12 at 8:24am
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It's not the same thing. As it seems, some people grip glossy easier than rubber. I think it depends on how much you sweat. I don't have any handsweat at all, and glossy gives me a "suck"-like grip, wheres the rubber is just slippery. There are also different kinds of rubber coating. I can grip my G400 without any problems, but the Deathadder BE and Zowie EC eVo was horrible.

I know exactly what you mean here and I have the same feeling. I think it has to do with how much your hands sweat. If you sweat a lot the 'rubberized' finish may give you more grip, but if your hands remain dry the "grip" feels very slippery. Not all of the rubberized finishes though, but certainly the BE, the zowie ec1/ec2/AM feel much more slippery to me than gloss.


On another note, now that razer is releasing a new version of their most mainstream mice, I cannot wait to see the backlash when people start having to use synapse. It's been pretty niche so far since only the naga hex and taipan, etc. were forced to use it. But now that there's a new deathadder without any legacy drivers to use it's going to be a firestorm.

/popcorn
Edited by boogdud - 10/15/12 at 8:28am
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post #23 of 482
10/15/12 at 9:21am
I know I shouldn't be, but I am interested in this sensor. Does anyone know what it is based off of?
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post #24 of 482
10/15/12 at 1:12pm
I am in agreement with the others (seems to be the majority in my experience) that say the rubber sides do not provide the grip that a few are claiming. The rubber does make the mouse look clean if someone fails to maintain clean hands compared to a non coated surface. I can see if you have some kind of condition that makes you secrete large amounts of some strange lubricant out of your hands the rubber helps.

I also find (as others stated) that the coating does wear off quickly. It may last a longer time for those who do not play as many hours. If you play near or over a 100 hours a month I do not think it will last long. Once it starts peeling a little it will just start coming off like it wants to escape.

When it comes to the coating and the shape of the mouse as it pertains to grip and cramps. The shape of the mouse causes cramps (for me at least) because of the right side mostly. As the right side is more rounded (no indents) there isn't any way to hold the mouse other than through finger strength. For most people their little finger isn't very strong. That wouldn't be a problem if the mouse could be held with the palm, but the DeathAdder is very wide in the back and front, so that is not possible. The fatigue wouldn't be as bad if the mouse wasn't so heavy. Then add in the slippery coating that requires more of a firm grasp; a low sensitivity player like myself will get very bad cramps/fatigue.
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post #25 of 482
10/15/12 at 2:21pm
I think the sides rub off for people who don't sweat much because their sliding fingers gradually scuff the surface.
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I am in agreement with the others (seems to be the majority in my experience) that say the rubber sides do not provide the grip that a few are claiming. The rubber does make the mouse look clean if someone fails to maintain clean hands compared to a non coated surface. I can see if you have some kind of condition that makes you secrete large amounts of some strange lubricant out of your hands the rubber helps.
I also find (as others stated) that the coating does wear off quickly. It may last a longer time for those who do not play as many hours. If you play near or over a 100 hours a month I do not think it will last long. Once it starts peeling a little it will just start coming off like it wants to escape.
When it comes to the coating and the shape of the mouse as it pertains to grip and cramps. The shape of the mouse causes cramps (for me at least) because of the right side mostly. As the right side is more rounded (no indents) there isn't any way to hold the mouse other than through finger strength. For most people their little finger isn't very strong. That wouldn't be a problem if the mouse could be held with the palm, but the DeathAdder is very wide in the back and front, so that is not possible. The fatigue wouldn't be as bad if the mouse wasn't so heavy. Then add in the slippery coating that requires more of a firm grasp; a low sensitivity player like myself will get very bad cramps/fatigue.
Yeah, I know a lot of people like the shape but it just seems strangely set up to me. I don't see who it benefits to have the right side curved like that, for instance.
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post #26 of 482
10/15/12 at 2:26pm
When I tried a 3.0 I found it to be much more comfortable than the DA due to the right side of the mouse being less cramped than the DA, that and the fact that the 3.0 is slightly larger overall and just conforms to my hand a lot better than the DA.
Still I'm curious to see if they've done much with the shell, it's one of the only mice I can use without giving me serious hand problems.
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post #27 of 482
10/15/12 at 4:58pm
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I know I shouldn't be, but I am interested in this sensor. Does anyone know what it is based off of?

I would like to know that too.
Conservative guessing would suggest a proprietary version of the A3090 (let's bet on S3988 being the name), with customized ROM to be paired with strong illumination.
Wild guessing could get some pretty weird ideas I rather don't tell for my sanity (dual-sensors? PixArt?).
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The Text sounds like it has the same Texture as the Taipan and the curve on the right side on the ergonomic design Pic looks a bit like it has an (Rubber)inlay. But i could be all wrong.
Btw. what took Razer and Avago so long, its months since the new SROM of the ADNS-3090 is out, because Razer and DPI and so on.

I don't expect them to use the same SROM, Razer always has something extra up their sleeve, even if it doesn't always turn out to be a success.

In any way, I'm far more interested in the new small ambidetrous mouse than the new da, for usually after a da release, they get a smaller ambidextrous mouse with the same sensor. Come here, abyssus/salmosa4G smile.gif
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post #28 of 482
10/15/12 at 5:27pm
my da:be dosent slip out of my hands then again i have pretty big hands
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post #29 of 482
10/15/12 at 8:28pm
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I would like to know that too.
Conservative guessing would suggest a proprietary version of the A3090 (let's bet on S3988 being the name), with customized ROM to be paired with strong illumination.
Wild guessing could get some pretty weird ideas I rather don't tell for my sanity (dual-sensors? PixArt?).
I don't expect them to use the same SROM, Razer always has something extra up their sleeve, even if it doesn't always turn out to be a success.
In any way, I'm far more interested in the new small ambidetrous mouse than the new da, for usually after a da release, they get a smaller ambidextrous mouse with the same sensor. Come here, abyssus/salmosa4G smile.gif

Thats what i meant actually, ADNS-3090 + moar DPI and maybe better tracking, but there is no mentioning of dual Sensors or anything like that on the Box, and even Razer wouldnt be that stupid to use everything else before something like a 3988 or 3898.

Something like Diamondback 4G would be interesting too, or Taipan with other name as they did with the DA and Mamba.
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post #30 of 482
10/15/12 at 8:32pm
Maybe, maybe not.
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