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Does the 2013 Deathadder use the same mouse feet dimensions? I don't want all these mouse feet to just got to waste.

Shipment from China can be as quick as a week. A lot of the time it is 2 weeks. But don't be surprised if it is delayed to 4 weeks, as that happens time to time.
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Does the 2013 Deathadder use the same mouse feet dimensions? I don't want all these mouse feet to just got to waste.

Shipment from China can be as quick as a week. A lot of the time it is 2 weeks. But don't be surprised if it is delayed to 4 weeks, as that happens time to time.

Looking at my old 1800DPI DA and my new 4G DA, it looks as if they're the same. The 4G ones are just black instead of white.

Hope that helps.
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Will be getting the 4G when I can. My 3.5G will become my full time laptop/out of the house mouse
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Does the 2013 Deathadder use the same mouse feet dimensions? I don't want all these mouse feet to just got to waste.
Shipment from China can be as quick as a week. A lot of the time it is 2 weeks. But don't be surprised if it is delayed to 4 weeks, as that happens time to time.


Dimensions look the same, though the stock ones look slightly thicker.
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Does the 2013 Deathadder use the same mouse feet dimensions? I don't want all these mouse feet to just got to waste.
Shipment from China can be as quick as a week. A lot of the time it is 2 weeks. But don't be surprised if it is delayed to 4 weeks, as that happens time to time.


Dimensions look the same, though the stock ones look slightly thicker.

The mouse still runs very low to the surface so they can't be that much thicker
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So will disabling synapse on boot for the 2013 edition allow me to preserve settings across computers? It's really important that the mouse retain my dpi settings on computers that don't have drivers installed as I take my mouse to lan parties/ competitions etc.
    
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Can you guess which line was drawn by the DeathAdder 2013, and which were drawn by my new left-handed DeathAdder, and the Black Edition? wink.gif

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This was on a particularly tricky surface, after performing surface calibration and setting lift-off distance to the minimum, though I couldn't get it to fail even before I turned on surface calibration either.

Looks like we might finally have an optical mouse that will work on the Artisan Shiden/Shiden-Kai. (this was not one, but is similarly bad for optical mice)


It does also seem like there were possibly some improvements made to the Black Edition over the regular 3.5G after all. The left-handed DeathAdder certainly seems to malfunction worse than it does.

I still think the Black Edition looks best, but the 2013 is relatively inoffensive once you turn off the LEDs. At least it doesn't have the "white" scroll wheel of the regular & left-handed editions. The logo looks printed on, like the black edition, rather than being a clear plastic "window" for the LED when it's off like the regular/left-handed versions.

I think I'll still keep the Black Edition around as a backup, rather than go through the cost of returning it to have two 2013 editions, especially as the 2013 is quite a bit more expensive, but I like it a lot. I think anyone that had problems with the grip of the older models will be very happy with the new textured finish and rubber side grips.

It's too bad they only made a right-handed version of it. Maybe a left-handed version will come eventually, but I needed one now.


Interestingly, the feet on all three are different. The left-handed edition has white feet, which are smooth and glide reasonably well.
The Black Edition has black feet, which are smooth and glide very well.
The 2013 has black feet which are "scratchy" on my hard mouse pad, though I'm sure that will disappear after a day or two of using the mouse.


The scroll wheel on all three is slightly different as well.

The left-handed edition has the most solid detents, and makes the lowest-pitch sound - just like my original Black Edition did.
The Black Edition that I bought a few weeks ago has fairly loose detents, and makes a medium-pitched sound.
The 2013 has solid detents, but makes the highest pitched sound and feels "hollow" compared to the other two. There's something that just doesn't feel quiet as solid about its movement.

Side buttons on the LH/BE are the same, side buttons on the 2013 have a much more solid action, and seem to require a little bit more force.
When you were pressing the button down on the older models, there was some movement in the button, but on the 2013 there's very little movement at all.


Synapse seems fine, I guess. It looks like it removes the native DPI steps on all mice - or maybe it uses them, but now offers interpolated values as another option. I created an account for it, and then blocked all connection access, so I'm not too concerned about it collecting data.


Oh, one more thing - they completely removed the profile button from the bottom of the mouse, so profile switching has to be handled in software now.
Edited by NotAgain - 11/28/12 at 7:22am
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my experience with DA2013 after 750 cs 1.6 deathmatch frags and 750 cs go deathmatch frags this afternoon:

pro: thumb.gif
+ rubbergrip on the side is amazing, very good control, better than 3.5G DA
+ switches (main, side and wheel) are great, better than 3.5G DA (only my right mousebutton sucks, see below @ cons)
+ scroll-wheel very good, don't know if better 3.5G DA or not, i personally like it
+ surface on top and bottom very nice, good build-quality, seems solid overall
+ mouseskates very nice also, very smooth glide on steelseries qck & 9hd better than stock ones of 3.5G DA
+ Lift Off Distance is low compared to the 3.5G DA

cons: mad.gif
- sensor: i don't know what they build into the sensor, but i needed very long to get used to it. and i am not yet really satisfied.
i tried severall dpi steps (400, 800 thats one of the predefined, 1800 also one of the 5 keysteps) but i don't get the feeling of accuracy like on my other mice.
don't know if there is some kind of interpolation or whatever, but for me personally (at the moment) its a backstep in comparison to the 3.5G DA.
i tried with synapse 2.0 running and without. no change. but it isn't a kind of lag like on the Taipan, it just doesn't go where i want to aim at.
i need to add that i switch my mice quiet often coming from IE 3.0, Zowie EC1, Logitech MX518 and G400. i swap around a lot, and normally i need 10 minutes
and im into a mouse. needed hours with this one to aim quiet secure.
- right mouse button: WAY too easy to activate, activated by accident already few times, propably i am unlucky and its not a general problem because all other buttons
are easy to click but very tactile at the same time

not so important aspects:
- this mouse should have called black edition because its really black, a lot darker than the 3.5G DA and Black Edition
- cable seems to be the same as the former DAs

i guess i gonna give it a try for a week or so and decide if i go for RMA because of the right click or even refund because of the sensor
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@thorsteNN

The mouse 2 feeling is likely because it is an ergonomic design. It is the same with the Deathadder 3.5G and the Zowie EC1/2. The right mouse buttons feels different on both of those because of the shell. The feeling can be hugely contrasted if they make the mouse 1 portion of the shell feel more tactile. Like in the Zowie EC.

Why use the drivers? Test it by setting the mouse up and uninstalling them.
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- sensor: i don't know what they build into the sensor, but i needed very long to get used to it. and i am not yet really satisfied.
i tried severall dpi steps (400, 800 thats one of the predefined, 1800 also one of the 5 keysteps) but i don't get the feeling of accuracy like on my other mice.
don't know if there is some kind of interpolation or whatever, but for me personally (at the moment) its a backstep in comparison to the 3.5G DA.
i tried with synapse 2.0 running and without. no change. but it isn't a kind of lag like on the Taipan, it just doesn't go where i want to aim at.
i need to add that i switch my mice quiet often coming from IE 3.0, Zowie EC1, Logitech MX518 and G400. i swap around a lot, and normally i need 10 minutes
and im into a mouse. needed hours with this one to aim quiet secure.

Anyone else that bought the mouse experience this? This would be a major let down if it were true, hopefully it can be fixed with a firmware update.
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