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What kind of budget do you have for a case? Graphics? Cooler?
Stick with the 32gb of ram if you have the budget for it. Sb-e supports quad channel memory and it would just cost more to go 32gb down the road if 16gb proves to not be enough.
The 912 is a basic case. Thats why i asked about budget.
The 7850 is midrange and the rest of your proposed rig isnt.
Whats your total budget and what are you planning on doing with your pc? Whats the main focus/purpose?

My budget is ~ £1200 GBP. (without Monitor, OS, K/B, Mouse, 2nd disk) [ Pls see my specs on post#1] - I already have Samsung 26" LCD DNie with HDMI inferface.

Must Items:

- Intel Core i7-3930K 3.20GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail [BX80619I73930K]

- 16GB/32GB 1600Mhz QUAD-channel ( will go to 16GB if some costly branded RAM recommended. If any 32GB 1600Mhz with QUAD is fine for over-clocking then I would go for some cheap (of course, warrantied) RAM) - Please suggest

- Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail [SSDSC2CT120A3K5]


Compromise-able Items:

- Graphics Card - My budget is £100-150
- Case / cabinet - upto £70 max
- CPU cooling - my budget £70-80
- Mother Board - £200 (Asus Asus P9X79 PRO Intel X79 (Socket 2011) minimum)

Please suggest,

Also which is the best place to buy in UK?

thanks,
prvnrk
Edited by prvnrk - 10/15/12 at 5:46am
post #12 of 21
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Thanks for the Info. Probably I will go with "Closed loop" only. What is the difference between H80 and H100 except for size? Which one do you recommend? Thanks!

Basicly, the H80 and H100 give fairly similar performance. At stock, with the supplied fans, the H100 will give you around 3*C Lower temps then the H80. Fan configurations, however, differ between the two.

The H80 takes a single 120mm fan spot, and uses a thicker radiator then the H100, and has fans on both sides of the radiator. This fan configuration is called Push/Pull, as there are fans on one side pushing air, and fans on the other side pulling air.
The H100 takes two 120mm fan spots. The radiator is thinner then the H80, and has fans on only one side of the radiator. This fan configuration is called push (if the fans are pushing air into the radiator), or pull (if the fans are pulling air through the radiator).

For additional performance you can buy fans and put them on the other side of the H100 so it is in Push/pull. This will give you a couple degrees lower temperatures compared to just push.

If the price gap isn't to much, id go the H100. One thing to take into consideration, is where you will mount the H100. You will want the radiator mounted on the top of the case, as closed loop systems tend to have a little bit of air in them, and if the rad is on the bottom, the air can sit in the pump. Air in water pumps is bad for the pump. A H80 on the rear 120mm fan spot will be fine as well, as the air will sit in the top of the radiator.

One more thing to take into consideration if mounting a h80 or h100 on the top of the case, is the clearance between the fans and the Vram coolers on your motherboard. Most of the time you can mount the H100 Radiator on the outside of the chassis, and have the fans inside the chassis. I could take a picture if you want to better explain what i'm getting at.

If you wanted to spend a little bit more (20-45 bucks), you could get new fans instead of using the stock fans. This can give equal, or slightly more or less performance, for less noise.

As far as i know, the pump/block and the tubes that connect them are identical.

Hope i was some help!
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post #13 of 21
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One thing to take into consideration, is where you will mount the H100. You will want the radiator mounted on the top of the case, as closed loop systems tend to have a little bit of air in them, and if the rad is on the bottom, the air can sit in the pump. Air in water pumps is bad for the pump. A H80 on the rear 120mm fan spot will be fine as well, as the air will sit in the top of the radiator.
One more thing to take into consideration if mounting a h80 or h100 on the top of the case, is the clearance between the fans and the Vram coolers on your motherboard. Most of the time you can mount the H100 Radiator on the outside of the chassis, and have the fans inside the chassis. I could take a picture if you want to better explain what i'm getting at.
If you wanted to spend a little bit more (20-45 bucks), you could get new fans instead of using the stock fans. This can give equal, or slightly more or less performance, for less noise.
As far as i know, the pump/block and the tubes that connect them are identical.
Hope i was some help!

Please send me the pic! - Its not clear about "mount the H100 Radiator on the outside of the chassis"

I plan to setup like - http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3567/70060389.jpg

Thanks!
post #14 of 21
I know it's been answered... i was a bit late. Yes it's the size. Get the H100 if it fits. 2 fans = more cooling and less noise.

UK, I prefer scan myself (free delivery for avforum members... get signed up), but others use overclockers, novatech, dabs, and I have even used amazon for computer bits.

£1200... I'd be sooooo tempted with a custom loop. Whereabouts in the UK are you?

Cheers,

DB
Edited by Del Boy - 10/15/12 at 6:49am
post #15 of 21
prvnrk, youre pic is exactly right. some cases have a recess to mount fans/coolers.
the case in that picture looks like push/pull setups with h100 fit totally inside the case.
what case is that ?
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Get 25 posts at hexus forums and then link to scan.co.uk to get free next day shipping on orders over £50. Then scout the "Today Only" section to get some bargains.
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post #17 of 21
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prvnrk, youre pic is exactly right. some cases have a recess to mount fans/coolers.
the case in that picture looks like push/pull setups with h100 fit totally inside the case.
what case is that ?

Thats a good question. We need to findout which cheapest case/Tower (with reasonable cooling) that suits H80/H100 and then finalize the spec of both case and CPU cooling kit.

Please post your system pic as well..

Thanks!
post #18 of 21
mine is nothing special. others have their rigs pics posted tongue.gif
only thing i did was ziptie 2 fans to my h100 inside the case because it wont allow a push/pull config with fans AND rad inside. this was a HUGE mistake by corsair.
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post #19 of 21
Here is what i mean by the top of the case....

My H100 sits on top, and is covered by the plastic cover, with my fans on the inside of the metal chassis.
Here is a (very) crude drawing of my set up, as i couldnt get a clear pic to show it.
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This case is the Coolermaster CM690II Advanced.
I had to modify the top cover a little bit on one side of the mesh so it would clip down onto the case properly.
This is something that is more specific to my case, but some other cases may be like this.

Ideally, it is a good idea to find a case that looks good, and then search forums to see if anyone has a H100 or H80 (whichever you are going for) in it, and if they will fit.

Some cases may fit the H100 and the fans inside the case. Others wont.
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post #20 of 21
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Thank you Shredded for you efforts in showing your setup.

Yes NOT all cases support H100.

Supported:

HAF 932
Corsair 500D ( http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/carbide-series-500r-white-mid-tower-case.html)

Need to decide on one among these

thanks
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