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Remember this,today's standard is 1920 x1080 x 23 inch.so anything outside of this better be quadhd (3840x2160)I would stick with the 46 inch 1920 x 1080.send it calibrate instead both the chip (edid)then the tv..its about 300$ in Canada ,if chip is right you might feel cheated but 9 time out of 10 tv send wrong info to the gpu or Os.you can check it via phoenix.it is very hard and at time impossible to have tv send proper edid and they don't let you chose or calibrate easy.i wouldn't get a 1440p.what game support 1440p ?none !you can't create non existing data 1920x1080p is 2073600 pixel .i LL assume 1440p is 300000 pixel,so basicly it will be same as gaming in 1280x 720p on a 1920x1080 .this is easy to compare go on YouTube say worldofwarcraft channel .take mop trailer,view it full screen at 720p then full screen at 1080p now we got all the data imagine same video on a 1440p screen.like I say you cant create data. Stick to 1920 x 1080p in multiple of 23 inch,23,46,69,92 inch.

That is entirely untrue. EVERY game these days supports arbitrary resolutions. With a video you actually have image data (it's effectively a compressed bitmap) for each frame, which basically means that the image is defined by saying "the pixel at 0,0 is red, the pixel at 0,1 is red, 0,2 is green [...]" until you've defined every pixel in the frame. For this type of data, yes, when running at a higher resolution than its native encoded format, you will have to upscale which behaves as you described.

However, most games these days have an engine that renders at an arbitrary resolution based upon an internal vector-style scene description. So instead of defining each pixel, they define each visual object; e.g. "draw a line from here to 2/3 of the way across the screen". Because it's defined in that way, whether your output resolution is set to 640x480 or 2560x1600, the rendered frames for the game are native to the output resolution, so you don't have any upscaling issues.

The only exception to this is basically older sprite-based games, and those will upscale on even 1080p displays.
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Full HD Tv whit high inch is absoluttly disgusting
sharpness 0 !
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Night & Day, Black & White, Fire & Ice. You get the point.

1440p IPS will be 100x better for gaming, but you will be wanting to upgrade your 670 sooner if you like high framerates & max settings.
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If you only play games and watch movies, keep the 1080p

But if you do any form of editing like photoshop, premiere/movie editing, or even php/html coding,
the higher resolution 27" will increase your view and of course increase your speed.
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Night & Day, Black & White, Fire & Ice. You get the point.
1440p IPS will be 100x better for gaming, but you will be wanting to upgrade your 670 sooner if you like high framerates & max settings.

A 4gb 670 isn't enough for 1440p? I didn't think that would be a problem, I really don't want to sli, so I might have to get a 780/770 when they come out....I was wanting to skip a generation and get the 880/870 (assuming they keep the same numbering system). I guess we will see.

It is suppose to be delivered today.

EDIT: Just got it...now I have to wait all day to hook it up.
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A 4gb 670 isn't enough for 1440p? I didn't think that would be a problem, I really don't want to sli, so I might have to get a 780/770 when they come out....I was wanting to skip a generation and get the 880/870 (assuming they keep the same numbering system). I guess we will see.
It is suppose to be delivered today.

For high frames rates 60+ on all games with max settings? No. For high frames 50+ with most things maxed out or on high? Should be just enough.

The 4GB doesn't really help unless you're loading tons of mods like Crisys 2 MaLDoHDv4 , Skyrim or using a multi monitor setup with 3 screens. But at those points to keep high frames you'd need a second 670 to keep most settings maxed.
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For high frames rates 60+ on all games with max settings? No. For high frames 50+ with most things maxed out or on high? Should be just enough.
The 4GB doesn't really help unless you're loading tons of mods like Crisys 2 MaLDoHDv4 , Skyrim or using a multi monitor setup with 3 screens. But at those points to keep high frames you'd need a second 670 to keep most settings maxed.

What is the first thing I should turn down to help with raising FPS? I know it might be different with each game, but what would be a good place to start?

Also, is it "better looking" to have a 2560x1440p with settings not all at max or a 1080p with all settings maxed? Is there still a difference between the two?

Somewhat off topic, but do I have to get the same 670 card or can I get the 4gb FTW from EVGA? If so, does it matter which slot I put which card in? Also, I assume to stay with 4gb I need to have a second 4gb card to sli with, a 2gb card will revert everything back to 2 gb?

..........I just purchased a 2560x1440p monitor, there has to be an upside here somewhere, right?......
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What is the first thing I should turn down to help with raising FPS? I know it might be different with each game, but what would be a good place to start?
Also, is it "better looking" to have a 2560x1440p with settings not all at max or a 1080p with all settings maxed? Is there still a difference between the two?
Somewhat off topic, but do I have to get the same 670 card or can I get the 4gb FTW from EVGA? If so, does it matter which slot I put which card in? Also, I assume to stay with 4gb I need to have a second 4gb card to sli with, a 2gb card will revert everything back to 2 gb?
..........I just purchased a 2560x1440p monitor, there has to be an upside here somewhere, right?......

Just woke up, this was a question that bothered me a lot before I bought one that was alleviated once got a chance to do testing in my own home with my own settings and side by side.

I always thought higher res > everything regardless of settings and I was right. The difference between high and ultra on a lot of gamers is nice!!! but the difference between high @ 1440 and ultra @ 1080p was huge for me and made it clear to me that even with my limited GPU power (SLI 460's @ 900/2100) I'd be better off in a higher resolution with tweaked settings.

The hude FPS killers for me where mostly VRAM memory based like textures but the same general rules apply even for 4GB cards, don't max out AA so no 16XMSAA at high res you really only need 2X-4X for most games, watch out for DOF as most games that use it implement it so so and gives huge penalties, Physx can still hurt if you don't have a second card (I'll be using one of my 460'sin hybrid physx). Just the generic stuff and can be more specific in some games where certain settings are broken, It's a trial and error for you and you'll learn what settings you don't need and what you can't live without. tongue.gif


The SLI/CF things has always been lowest common denominators so a 2GB + 1GB CF/SLI becomes twin 1GB cards, I don't think that's changed in the 6XX/7XXX lines. You should be fine with any 4GB card from a different vendor since we don't have the whole 192/256/SE debacle we had a couple of gens ago where the 768 mb card and 1GB 460's could not be SLI'd and the more we moved to "newer" versions the more the 460's got gimped.


I think you'll love your monitor, once you start playing around and get used to the colors you'll despise looking at regular monitors and wonder how you ever played on anything lower than 2560x1440. tongue.gif
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I think it all depends on the type of games you play. My brother has a 46" 1080 tv he used to use to play video games. He played Dirt , Flight Simulator X and BF3. For Dirt and the FSX it was great and the big screen was nice, but for BF3 he couldn't stare at the screen for more than an hour and it will cause a lot of strain to his eyes. I convinced him to get a an ASUS LED 25" (open box $125) monitor which he loves now and likes much better for BF3. So one of those Korean monitors must be even greater.
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I have both a 24" 120hz and a my big dell (sig rig).
The 120hz is silky smooth and I like it, but my H-IPS is quite crisp itself if you can lock games at 60fps its quite smooth/accurate.

But playing at 1440p/1600p is incomparable to even 1200p.
Once you play at this resolution its difficult to go back.

For a living room though, 1080p on a 42"+ is more then fine.
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