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Tesla K20 specs seem to be out - 2496 cuda cores, 320 bit memory bus, 5GB, 705 Mhz core clocks
http://www.cadnetwork.de/konfigurator/gpu_rackserver_proviz_g13/system=88

LoL Reincarnation of fire breathing decapitated monster! aka Fermi GF100 biggrin.gif

Just imagine what a train wreck Gk100 must have been lol. No wonder it was dumped.
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I am really curious to see how this will be a "revelation" for games (which I highly doubt).
Ppl just refuse to be happy with what they get, they always assume that there is so much more "hold back" from them...
...Maybe the next GTX will be a revamped more towards a GK110 than a GK104 - who knows.
But if it wasn't for the naming, why would anyone assume that the GK110 should replace the GF110 and not the GK104?

I think people incorrectly assume that because GK110 is great at HPC, it will suck at gaming. That is false. While the HPC aspects won't benefit gaming, it won't hinder it either. Why would it? Having 2/3 more shaders and a wider memory interface on the other hand, will greatly benefit gaming performance, regardless of these magical double precision thingies that "I don't use."
     
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The bad K10's released as a Geforce card would be a lot better as a gaming card biggrin.gif

 

NVIDIA Tesla K10 Kepler (8GB ECC 3072-Core 190-DP/4577-SP)

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I think people incorrectly assume that because GK110 is great at HPC, it will suck at gaming. That is false. While the HPC aspects won't benefit gaming, it won't hinder it either. Why would it? Having 2/3 more shaders and a wider memory interface on the other hand, will greatly benefit gaming performance, regardless of these magical double precision thingies that "I don't use."
It will hinder the card in terms of power consumption, they can't release a card pulling significantly more than 250W.
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The bad K10's released as a Geforce card would be a lot better as a gaming card biggrin.gif

NVIDIA Tesla K10 Kepler (8GB ECC 3072-Core 190-DP/4577-SP)
That's because the K10 is two GK104s in one card, it probably uses the exact same card as the GTX 690.
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I think people incorrectly assume that because GK110 is great at HPC, it will suck at gaming. That is false. While the HPC aspects won't benefit gaming, it won't hinder it either. Why would it? Having 2/3 more shaders and a wider memory interface on the other hand, will greatly benefit gaming performance, regardless of these magical double precision thingies that "I don't use."

I use it, I use it! Many of us here use it in compute. Folding@home or BOINC.

Way to go NVIDIA you made me a happy cruncher with this news.

NOW do your job and release it soon! thumb.gif
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I think people incorrectly assume that because GK110 is great at HPC, it will suck at gaming. That is false. While the HPC aspects won't benefit gaming, it won't hinder it either. Why would it? Having 2/3 more shaders and a wider memory interface on the other hand, will greatly benefit gaming performance, regardless of these magical double precision thingies that "I don't use."

You have to understand that the transistors used for Double Precision units (8 per SMX in GK104 vs 64 in GK110 per SMX) are not going to help gaming performance. The GK110 has an architecture which is purpose designed for excellent HPC and workstation performance. Features like ECC, Hyper-Q , Dynamic parallelism do affect die size and power. Perf/watt will take a hit. the desktop GTX 780 will have to work within a 250W TDP so that means lower clocks as can be seen in the Tesla K20 running at 705 Mhz..
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You have to understand that the transistors used for Double Precision units (8 per SMX in GK104 vs 64 in GK110 per SMX) are not going to help gaming performance. The GK110 has an architecture which is purpose designed for excellent HPC and workstation performance. Features like ECC, Hyper-Q , Dynamic parallelism do affect die size and power. Perf/watt will take a hit. the desktop GTX 780 will have to work within a 250W TDP so that means lower clocks as can be seen in the Tesla K20 running at 705 Mhz..

While HPC does take die space, the additional shaders + ROPs and wider memory bus will also greatly affect gaming performance.

As far as HPC units affecting perf / watt, they propably don't, as they are likely gated down when not used. In this case die complexity will add more to that, as such a big die with low leakage in much harder to make than the smaller one.

As far as clock go. Kepler as is is either constrained by ROPs or memory bus, so that overclocking is not giving theoretical max increases in most cases, so again by eliminating bottlenecks can give a greater result in certain scenarios than pure clock speed itself.
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Semiaccurate is hungry for page hits. Spreading nonsense rumors with these articles. All his sources probably some imaginary friends.
This is just like his Kepler banter he told about Magical PhysX blocks, that will put AMD cards completely out of business. LoL. biggrin.gif
6 months later see where we are. AMD has the performance crown and 1st choice of enthusiasts when it comes to OC.

I remember very similar posts when he was talking about Fermi..We all know how correct he was about that.
    
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Ok so I have a question. If they, for some reason, did release a gk110 to the consumer market, would it not come out around the same time as the 700 series? And if so chances are itd be slower than the 780, louder, hotter, and requiring way more power...that's simply not cost efficient. And you have to think amd's 8000 series is ready by now. Dumping even a penny into this seems like a step backwards and just not very smart. Seems like nvidia is trying to overstretch themselves with what they have and their not taking the realities into harsh consideration. If it were me, I'd scrap any consumer gk110 and focus on the GF114 which would no doubt outclass it on every corner(as far as gaming and energy/heat is concerned). Sure a gk110 gpu would be ideal for a fractional niche enthusiast market, but in the end its just not there.
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Ok so I have a question. If they, for some reason, did release a gk110 to the consumer market, would it not come out around the same time as the 700 series? And if so chances are itd be slower than the 780, louder, hotter, and requiring way more power...that's simply not cost efficient. And you have to think amd's 8000 series is ready by now. Dumping even a penny into this seems like a step backwards and just not very smart. Seems like nvidia is trying to overstretch themselves with what they have and their not taking the realities into harsh consideration. If it were me, I'd scrap any consumer gk110 and focus on the GF114 which would no doubt outclass it on every corner(as far as gaming and energy/heat is concerned). Sure a gk110 gpu would be ideal for a fractional niche enthusiast market, but in the end its just not there.

The GK110 probably will be the GTX780.

Maxwell (GM100) has not even taped out yet and will not be ready until the end of 2013 at best.
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