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post #11 of 27
Mine does overlap but doesn't need to be bent (well except where I have had to route the wiring because of the side power connectors!).

Gimme a minute and I'll get a photo.
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Jocelyn: Good call on the graphics card. Perhaps it would be smarter if I grabbed a 1200 or 1080P 24" panel instead and went down to a 660 Ti or something? That or do you have another recommendation of a card under $400? I want to stick with nVidia for CUDA core reasons. Also, I live in Orlando so there's a CompUSA nearby, but no Microcenter.
Bit Reaper: I really don't want to go to a bigger case and I've heard the size of the BitFenix. I have a small car and I'd prefer the size of the SG05 personally. I will look into the cooler option though for sure!
I have no idea on the monitor, but I'd stick with any 670/660ti (depending on what you want to spend) that has an external exhaust. It just makes sense with this case imo.
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Silverstone SG05BB-450 Dimensions 10.87" x 6.93" x 8.74"
BitFenix Prodigy Dimensions 9.84" x 15.91" x 14.13" (a lot of that comes form the feet/handles)

Not everyone needs a tower cooler and the cases are no where even close in size. The SG05 is ~10.8 liters whereas the Prodigy is 27.8 liters and that's not even counting the handles. Anyway, I like the prodigy, but it's HUGE ENORMOUS compared to the SG05.

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Well its specs say its 10" long and the SG05BB is advertised as supporting cards up to 10" so it should just barely fit. I would still be a bit worried about the Antec kuhler interfering with it though as 120m radiators are actually slightly larger then 120mm.
No, its exactly 262mm maximum, and Silverstone has 10" in the specs in case people don't compensate for side connectors. 262mm = 10.315"
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Looks like my hunch was correct and the radiator fan and the graphics card do overlap. Good news is that the radiator will fit vertically when all the drive cages are removed and let the graphics card slink in under it (is it me or is that card bent downwards). I would still opt to use the ZOTAC GTX 670 TwinCooler as its only 160mm long (about the same as an ITX mobo) and avoid any possible issues.
This^ The radiator needs to be fitted vertically. Again any kind of GPU cooler will be fine in the SG05, but I still prefer an external exhaust over one that's blowing all over the place.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130802
What about that card? It looks like it exhausts through the back with a high flow vent.
Also Bit Reaper: I'm going to run a SSD and no ODD or HDD's, so I don't mind removing the HD cage. If there's a better solution though, I am all for that. My only other option would be the cheaper CM case, but the quality difference between a Silverstone and CM is tremendous.
It appears this is my goal: http://my.opera.com/nagynorbert/albums/slideshow/?album=10316162&picture=137445912

Like I mentioned above, every external exhaust 670/660 ti that I can think of will fit very easily. Here's a 680 in my last setup.



Edited by Jocelyn84 - 10/16/12 at 2:52am
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k Asus Maximus Gene V Asus GTX970 Strix 16GB Samsung 1867 MV-3V4G3D 
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Samsung 830 256GB Corsair H60 Windows 7 X64 Dell U2412M 1920x1200 
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Ducky Mini LE YOTH Seasonic 660XP2 Silverstone TJ08-EW Mionix Naos 8200 
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i7 3615QM GT 650M 2GB 12GB Elpida DDR3 Plextor M5 Pro 256GB 
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Plextor M3 256GB Windows 7 Professional x64 17.3" 1920x1080 KBC Poker w/ MX Clears, 62g Springs, & SS Plate 
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Ducky Mini LE YOTH Seasonic 660XP2 Silverstone TJ08-EW Mionix Naos 8200 
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i7 3615QM GT 650M 2GB 12GB Elpida DDR3 Plextor M5 Pro 256GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Plextor M3 256GB Windows 7 Professional x64 17.3" 1920x1080 KBC Poker w/ MX Clears, 62g Springs, & SS Plate 
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post #13 of 27
Totally agree with everything Jocelyn84 said.

Here's the only 2 pics I have on me... sorry but it shows that a custom loop fits with a 240mm card and side connectors.




Hope this helps, but don't be afraid of an SG05 gaming machine! It's alot smaller than anything else except an SG07!

Cheers,

DB
post #14 of 27
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In my SG05, I have had to take out the ODD and HDD/SDD caddy out to fit the 120mm radiator.
My card is 240mm long and has the PCIE power fitting horizontal! So a 10" card will be no problem, I think a 12" card (with power connectors at the top) probably will squeeze in... but if you need to definitely know then I can measure i later tonight.
I agree that an exhaust fan graphics card would be best... air will come in the side and go straight out and not affect any other bits.
The SG05 will be busy, but not that cramped. I've managed to squeeze a full custom loop in... and I used alot of spare bits from my desktop loops.
For that RAM, I can't recommend 8gb Samsung 30nm enough... you don't need 16gb... except for bragging rights!
Let me know if you need any SG05 help!
Cheers,
DB

The extra RAM is due to the fact that my Masters Degree is specialized in web design and uses the entire CS6 Master Collection. I thought the extra RAM would be playing it safe plus future proofing it in case future versions of Adobe become more taxing. That's the same reason I'm opting for the MSI 670 OC over the EVGA 660TI FTW Signature2 even though they have a $70 price difference after MIR. With a 2560x1440 screen, it makes sense to plan ahead. I'm hoping this computer can last me quite a while until eventually the 4K monitors become mainstream. I usually only play Counterstrike:GO, sports games, and whatever steam games come out, so my biggest concern is having something with a lot of CUDA cores/ memory bandwith that will be able to future proof me.
post #15 of 27
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Updated my picks in the first post. Still looking for a monitor upgrade though and I'm indecisive on this one. I really need one that's good for web design, but I hate the grainy AG coating on Dell's.
post #16 of 27
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I took absolute full advantage of eBay's 20% bucks back deal right now and will hold off on the monitor until January, which is fine because my program doesn't start until then anyway and at that point there will likely be at least one US manufacturer selling the Korean monitors via eBay. Here's the final list shipped after the Bucks and associated deals (I won't see the discount though until I make the monitor purchase in January):

Intel Core i7 3750K - $184
Antec Kuhler 620 Liquid Cooling System- $52
ASRock Z77E-ITX - $128
16GB DDR3-1600 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline - $46
EVGA GTX 670 - $304
128GB Mushkin Enhanced Chronos SSD - $68
Silverstone SG05 w/450w PSU - $89

Total: $879 plus Monitor

Overall, I think it's a killer deal considering the amount of power in this system and I also went with the Mushkin to keep the HyperX in my laptop and am using my old 320GB laptop drive as external storage.
Edited by CATACLYSMMM - 10/18/12 at 1:27am
post #17 of 27
Ok almost the same as me! I've even used an old laptop HDD as a storage drive!

Have fun building, post some pics when you are done to prove that a GTX670 can fit in a small SG05 quite easily!

If you hit any probs then I'm happy to help... but I doubt you'll need it!
post #18 of 27
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Thanks for the help man! I went for the 9.5" PCB card, so it shouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately the case is shipping USPS, so the build might not be done for a few weeks. Also with the radiator on the Antec, I'm assuming the fan should be on the inside with the radiator on the outside based on others experiences? I'm working with a friend to add a nice handle to it also to make it truly the most affordable ultra portable computer possible.
post #19 of 27
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I'm assuming the fan should be on the inside with the radiator on the outside based on others experiences?

http://blog.antec.com/cooling/asetek-air-flow-matters/
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post #20 of 27
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I would still opt to use the ZOTAC GTX 670 TwinCooler as its only 160mm long (about the same as an ITX mobo) and avoid any possible issues.

I would love to know where you plan on getting one of those (so I can get one too) tongue.gif
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