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Used it for a month and a half. Good enough?

Lol. Here's what's going to happen. It will be labeled as a failure by lots of people, and go the way of Vista. MS will then release a "new" version, called Windows 9, that fixes all the problems Windows 8 had (like Win7 did for Vista), and will be the best thing since sliced bread. And, just like Win7, Win9 will have no major differences from Win8. rolleyes.gif

The way people can bandwagon is absolutely mind boggling.


"Gaashrrrd no start menu!!? well obvious FAIL!!"

Yeah, because a small menu in the bottom left corner of the screen that is frequently populated with icons you never actually use, and have to precisely move the mouse to select what you want, has absolutely no aspects that can be improved upon, while retaining all the benefits.
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I seriously doubt it's going to be labeled a failure once people get their hands on the tablets running Windows 8 Pro and they learn the gestures they will learn how intuitive the operating system is to use. All of you are shutting it down because your laptops and desktop screens aren't touch based but look at the new mice/track pads that are going to be released to take full control of the gestures. Unlike Vista, performance on Windows 8 is an increase over Windows 7. I for one can't wait to replace my laptop and Android tablet with a Windows 8 Pro tablet. I was close to purchasing the MSI WindPad 110w after seeing how decently it handled a few decent titles but the deal breaker for me was the 3-4 hour battery life.

If AMD can manage more battery life with their new APUs around 8+ hours I will gladly pick up a Windows 8 Pro tablet.

Edited by WannaBeOCer - 10/16/12 at 10:10pm
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MY experience with windows 8 is a double edged sword, On one side it is AMAZINGLY Fast and responsive, IT brings mechanical drives alive, And is even retardedly faster on an SSD, But on the otherside it treats me like a moron.


Windows 8 = windows for morons.
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I'm on windows 8. So far, really stable, fluent, and everything from 7, that I use, for gaming and all, works just fine. I like the new twist to the GUI and, frankly, it isn't that hard to use. Y I like it, it's refreshing, and can span across all platforms.
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MY experience with windows 8 is a double edged sword, On one side it is AMAZINGLY Fast and responsive, IT brings mechanical drives alive, And is even retardedly faster on an SSD, But on the otherside it treats me like a moron.
Windows 8 = windows for morons.

I don't think it treats us like morons. The desktop environment has seen some very welcome enhancements that cater to power users. First of all, the new ribbon interface in Windows Explorer is actually quite nice. It moves a number of advanced options that were once buried in Folder and Search Options directly on to the ribbon, such as showing/hiding file extensions, showing hidden files, and much more.

The items in the ribbon inside My Computer are also extremely useful, such as mapping a network drive. In addition, the new advanced menu in the desktop environment that is accessible by right clicking in the lower left corner of the screen, or pressing Win+X, is extremely useful and provides fast access to Device Manager, Computer Management, Disk Management, and other things that required more work to access in previous versions of Windows.

And regarding the start screen, I find it can be used much faster than the start menu once you've become acquainted with it.

Also, if you think you've noticed Windows 8 booting significantly faster than Windows 7, it isn't just a placebo. It's a new feature called Fast Startup:
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html
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Did the OP rename the title of this thread? Or I don't remember the title of this thread being called "are you currently using Windows 8, why/why not?" or "do you or do you not like Windows 8"...
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No i've noticed windows 8 has massive performance games allround, EVERY Game i've tested has higher min FPS, Hell, I can play SC2 at "high" on my tablet running windows 8, Where as it would struggle and stutter under windows 7.


Samsung 7 series slate, Core i5 2xxxxM Hd3k 720p res with 4GB Ddr3.

But on the otherside, It's a pain in the ass to get to most places, I can't run games in windowed full screen(Tried it on my laptop aswell) and just hit the windows key to access other things, I'm literaly having to alt tab and thats a pain.

I also have to TURN administrative tools on before i can access them through the metro ui, Makes me feel like i'm being treated like a moron.
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Technically you're right, you don't need a touch screen. It's just a much better experience having a touch screen vs not having one. Or, a better way of putting it is that *I* would want a touch screen when using Windows 8.
Not that I'll be using it any time soon (I'm happy with Linux), but the future, who knows?

I've been using Tablet PCs for many years now, and touch in Windows isn't as nice as it sounds. Not even in Windows 8 (and yes I've tried it). The UI is fine and everything, but not being able to use keyboard shortcuts makes everything SO much slower.

Having a Wacom digitizier is another story though. If you try using a convertible Tablet PC for a week you'll never go back to regular laptops again.
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I will get windows 8 when I decide there isn't quite enough frustrasions in my life and I need even more. rolleyes.gif

Until that day, I will stick with a frustration free OS.
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I don't know if Windows 8 will be huge failure overall because it's well suited for tablets and touchscreen/mobile devices. For desktop PC's, I can easily see how sales might not meet Microsoft's projections. Personally, I have absolutely no intention of "upgrading" from Win 7 64 Ultimate.

My impression of Windows 8 is an OS that can be run on a desktop, but is primarily designed for tablets and other mobile devices. While a few minor improvements were made to it's Win 7 base, the major "enhancements" center upon a huge emphasis on apps, a new touch screen interface, lower CPU power requirements, and improved cloud compatibility. Even the new start up screen reminds me of something I'd see on a mobile phone or tablet. The focus on apps is hard to understate. Under the "Developing Window 8" part of the Microsoft Windows 8 Product Guide PDF, the first section is entitled "Apps take center stage" with another section in the same part entitled "Building Apps Using What You Know. The first part, "Windows Reimagined" has a section entitled "All the Apps You Want." If you love apps, Win 8 is designed for you.

Personally, I don't use apps (or gadgets) on my desktop. I can search just fine (Win 7 does have a custom search function though it's not as user friendly as XPs IMO). E-mail? Frankly, I've never had a compelling need to access personal my e-mail any faster than it takes me to open FireFox (or IE or whatever you use) and log in. Not missing anything by taking an 15- 20 seconds or so. If I ever do want e-mail access immediately upon start up, I have Outlook. Weather - same thing. It takes 1-2 seconds to open Firefox with a plugin for that, or maybe 3-5 seconds go to weather.com (bookmarked for my zip) if I want a more detailed forecast/radar/whatever. Calender - again I have Outlook (full version) if I need that. Even if I do use Outlook (or similar), anything important gets put on my cell phone since it's not like I can keep my PC with me at all times. Win 8 also has IE 10 (if you use IE)... which also runs on Win 7.

The product guide also mentions "enhanced cloud features" Again perfectly fine "communicating" with family, friend's, co-workers (do that at work enough as it is), arch-enemies, etc. via e-mail, Facebook, Linked-in, etc. using Win 7. Actually, I frequently use an archaic system known as a telephone. Yes, Microsoft, people still use phones. I do wonder whether all these cloud features require some sort of subscription/monthly fee. One last item is that Win 8 can run on low power CPUs thus extending batter life. Great for mobile devices, but we are talking about desktops here. Not relevant or helpful. Of course there are some universal benefits for desktop users in Win 8. Faster start up is nice, but with an SSD it's pretty fast with Win 7. According to some (no idea if true), Win 8 has slightly higher FPS when gaming. JMO, but I would think putting the money spent to upgrade to Win 8 towards a better (or additional) graphics card would provide better value towards gaming. With prices falling on lower GB models, an SSD looks very attractive as a way to boost performance versus a Win 8 upgrade. There are some interesting security features as well. However, I HATE the new start screen and removal of the start button. For me, any minor performance benefits gained over Win 7 are utterly negated by these two changes.

XP and Vista users had some compelling reasons to upgrade to Windows 7. XP, especially the standard 32 bit version, was getting so old that you couldn't take advantage of the latest hardware tech - 64 bit processing and "4GB" ram limit (never seen XP actually register fully 4GB - always 3GB+) being two primary examples. Win 7 SSD features and compatibility with HDDs over 2TB are two more. Win 7 boot up time is much much better than XP as well. If you ran Vista, while some may have liked it, a lot of people had many issues with it which were at least mostly addressed by Win 7. Upgrading to Win 8 simply doesn't compare in terms of desktop usage. Lastly, I am NOT, repeat, NOT sure (so please don't needlessly flame me), but I thought I read somewhere that OEMs were considering to continue offering Win 7 as well as Win 8 for new PC orders. If that's true, it's a pretty big indication of how a large percentage of desktop users feel about it.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but in the end, I still see apps, lower power usage, touch screen enhancements... and apps (duplicate listing on purpose) as the major "benefits" of "upgrading" to Win 8 from Win 7. That along with, again JMO, a HUGE step backward in the start screen and removal of the start button. I simply don't see any compelling reasons to upgrade in a desktop setting unless you just love apps.
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