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Again, most consumers have no idea what newegg is, and I'm arguing that unlike the acer, the mid-tier lenovo and the low-tier samsung, those are all decidedly cheap-feeling products compared to the overall polished experience you get with a slate. Also, none of those computers are even close to acceptable for a business, and they're at pretty heavy discount to boot making it questionable to call those under the $500 mark.

Sorry, that sounded somewhat antagonistic, but I'm just trying to argue that Microsoft is trying to sell a premium product that excels in a few areas and provides an overall good experience as long as you know what you are getting beforehand.
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If Microsoft can give me a $500 tablet that has all the functionality of a regular windows PC has then I MIGHT be interested.
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Good lord I want this thing...I was hoping the RT would be cheaper though so that the one with real specs could be in this price range. Windows 8 on a real tablet is going to be so awesome....especially the full blown version.
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post #134 of 186
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I haven't seen anybody comment about the Surface TV commercial, not that it matters more than the device itself but marketing is important none the less. Why can't Microsoft release a commercial that actually shows you functionality of the device and tells you about it. All we saw in the commercial is that it's a tablet with a built-in stand and some other thing that snaps onto it. They didn't even show you how the OS worked (besides swiping on the Metro home screen), how the keyboard cover works with its productivity benefits or even that it was a keyboard cover to begin with. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. What do you guys think?
For example. take this first-gen iPad commercial:Or this Retina iPad commercial.A 60 second commercial from Microsoft about the Surface told me almost nothing about the device, whereas a 30 second iPad commercial (first ad) showed me ten things the device can do and (second ad) talked about the Retina display of the New iPad and showed examples. No commercial is perfect and Apple does try to hide the downsides of it's 4:3 display with HD videos but with that aside. Tell me what is wrong with this picture? Does Microsoft understand marketing at all? Not that I claim to be an expert in marketing but it's not that hard to get the basic concept or how I would try to showcase a device. You want people to see what your product can do, make them want one, and make sure they know what the device is. Some lame dancing and flipping around of the device with an ending that says Surface will not help people at all who don't know about it. Sorry if I'm ranting but this is really common sense that some companies, Billion dollar companies no less, are too stupid to understand. Then people wonder why Apple is so popular. Besides making great high quality products, they can actually articulate with ease the benefits of their device in a TV commercial. Now the lying that went on with the I'm a PC vs I'm a Mac commercials is something different entirely but they don't use those anymore (not that I'm defending them, just stating a fact).

Microsoft doesn't handle marketing, dude, a company called CP+B does for the Surface.

Other than that, I think they did pretty well in the commercial. It showed off its biggest advantage over the competition, which is it's ability to convert into a tablet or a functional PC. It shows that their not trying to be iPad.

Those iPad ads you showed only showed what the apps were capable of, not the device itself.
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If Microsoft can give me a $500 tablet that has all the functionality of a regular windows PC has then I MIGHT be interested.

Microsoft might not make one, but it can almost be guaranteed that someone else (Acer, HP, Dell, etc) will.
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I myself am a college student, and frequently wish I had something small and portable to read PDF's and such during lectures.

In my opinion one does not need a 500$ tablet for that. You can get a 7'' device with 1280x800 IPS screen for ~150$.
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Originally Posted by Carniflex View Post

In my opinion one does not need a 500$ tablet for that. You can get a 7'' device with 1280x800 IPS screen for ~150$.

You can also spend $800 on a car to get you from point A to point B.
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Notice how I said "apps", notice, they are not real applications, but "applets"..? It is because Android is a toy, meant as a cash cow for google as a marketing experiement. Can you install MS Office on Android..

M$ will be releasing office for android. Was somewhere in the news
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If Microsoft can give me a $500 tablet that has all the functionality of a regular windows PC has then I MIGHT be interested.

Really?
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What did I just watch? wth.gif

Anyway the more the competition the better....

Also... Microsoft hipster man reminds me of Apple hipster man from old Apple ads. Haha.
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Did you guys notice this ?
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The size of the OS + OfficeRT + "a bunch of apps" is about 20 GB

From an article on DailyTech


No wonder the entry level version has 32 GB of storage, it's not really an advantage over the iPad or the competition, they just couldn't make a 16 GB version.

Judging by the space all of this takes on the storage, it's still to be seen how much of an advantage 2 GB of RAM really are compared to tablets that come with 1 GB of RAM. Maybe they also needed 2 GB of RAM in order to provide a comparable experience. This is all to say that these are not necessarily advantages they try to portray.


Also, the "Full Office" that I've been reading about in many articles, including the one above, is not the best way to put it. First of all, if you are one of the first buyers, you are not even getting the final version, you're getting a "Preview" version, you'll have to wait a few weeks, or even a few months, as supposedly the updates to turn it into the final "full" version will last all the way into January. Perhaps not a very big deal (as long as the software doesn't have any major bugs or any major features missing, that is), but it's not a good start when they can't officially release the final version with the tablet right away, as this is one of the features that sets it apart from the competition.

But what I really wanted to address is the fact that this is only Office Home and Student 2013, which means it only comes with Word, Excel, PowerPoint and OneNote. There is no Outlook, and compared to what seems like a subpar once called Metro style mail program that Windows 8 comes with, I can't see this going well with potential corporate customers seeking to deploy Windows tablets. Those will also look for the x86 version.
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