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-3db point is used for frequency response....

Not really, it's manufacturer specified. Some like Mission and KEF have used +/- 6 in the past and ProAc have been seen using +/- 1 or 2 on occasion. There's no standard for it unfortunately.
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I find it pretty funny people are so bothered by what other people do with their money.

I find it more funny when people sorely try to justify their purchase of overpriced products.

It's not about what they do with their money, it's about how they carry themselves. I don't give a rat's ass if you like Beats headphones, Apple products, or other similarly overpriced products. The main thing we who despise such products get annoyed with are the idiots that run around saying they're the absolutely perfect, end-all, best products in the world in their sector, when they're clearly not.
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My Urbanears Plattan ($80) and my Koss Porta Pro ($50) beat the Beats Audio. biggrin.gif
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I find it more funny when people sorely try to justify their purchase of overpriced products.

It's not about what they do with their money, it's about how they carry themselves. I don't give a rat's ass if you like Beats headphones, Apple products, or other similarly overpriced products. The main thing we who despise such products get annoyed with are the idiots that run around saying they're the absolutely perfect, end-all, best products in the world in their sector, when they're clearly not.


I don't see anyone here trying to justify anything. Just a bunch of people joining in on some forum bandwagon to, immaturely, hate on a product most people who do complain about it probably have little experience with, seems they hate it so much. While there is no doubt some educated folks with audio here, I'd bet most peoples "poor experience" is a couple of minutes in the local retail store with their smartphone, then they think it's the cool thing to jump in for the ride so they look cool. I'll put my hands up and admit I used to do the same sort of thing once about Bose, of which while I still think they have high pricing, I do like some of their products (especially the Companion 3's and their new Soundbar which HDTV's can sit on) now that I stopped being a sheep and went out and actually tried the product out properly for myself.

Who is anyone to tell someone else what is or is not good for them? Taste is subjective to the user and, most especially with audio, everyone's ears are completely different. If someone likes the look of Beats, and they think it's a really good sound for them, good for them. If you think something is better, go and buy it and enjoy it, instead of joining a circle jerk on an internet forum, looking down on some kid who has something that makes him happy in life.

For the record, before people think I am some rabid Monster fanboy, I own a pair of AKG k430's which I think are fantastic for their price. I just think this sort of bandwagon behaviour over a brand or it's pricing is ridiculous. It's almost as bad (no, worse actually) than the Apple hate on this forum. I'll also go on record and state I actually like one particular type of Beats headphones (though not the price tag though I won't exactly go on a rabid fanrage warpath about it) and actually thought they sounded pretty good to me, though I think some of the others sounded rather bland with some respect personally. That's not to say someone else may not like the particular style of audio they offer. Obviously plenty of people do, or they wouldn't be so popular regardless of what a few people think on an internet forum.


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Who is anyone to tell someone else what is or is not good for them? Taste is subjective to the user and, most especially with audio, everyone's ears are completely different.

Tell that to pro sound engineers. Also, bose don't necessarily sound bad compared to cheap phones, but they don't sound much better. I would put me etymotic mc5 ($60) against any pair of bose headphones, and I bet they would win in both isolation and accuracy. Bose just don't match up against any half-decent brand and I challenge you to explore more before saying "sound is entirely subjective."
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I challenge you to explore more before saying "sound is entirely subjective."

 

I challenge you to find where I said sound was "entirely" subjective. I'll give you a hint. I didn't.

And I'll happily tell that to a pro sound engineer because any pro sound engineer would know it was true, regardless of what scientific comparison tests prove. No two people hear things, point for point, exactly the same. In the same way no two people see things, point for point, exactly the same. Therefore audio will always be subjective to how the user percieves it via listening, regardless how much any test proves X is better than Y. It's pointless saying X sounds better than Y if the user doesn't have the ears to tell the difference or if the difference is something they actually do not like.

The average user does not spend hour upon hour slaving away with scientific tests just to see if X product is better than Y. They just try it and decide if they like it or not. You don't need to be a pro sound engineer to decide if you, personally, like something or not and regardless of what test A or test B proves about a product that isn't going to make you dislike it any more or less, if it did it wouldn't be because you hear different, but because you then have been told it's different, a trick of the mind. You wouldn't know it was different if no body had told you, thereofre it would still be good to you.

 

For alot of people, they won't hear better. We can blame marketing for that, or whatever, but if to them it's the best sound they have heard, instead of mocking them, show them what is better instead of acting like a schoolchild in a playground over it. For me a cheap pair of Sony earbuds that I had owned for near 8 years were the best headphones I had in years. I think I paid like £5 for them and nothing, not even Ipod headphones, or some more expensive headphones (even my AKG's are given a run for their money by them sound wise) came close. That doesn't mean they were neccessarily good or high quality, but that they were the way I enjoyed listening to my sound. My audio.


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Well, I must say that I love my $100 Sennheiser HD 280 Pro's... smile.gif
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Meh, I'll stick to my ______________. They're sooooo much better and only cost $______.





Here you go guys, just fill out the standard form for any Beats/Heaphone thread.
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Lmao I share a similar view with you on that. I understand wanting some professionalism on OCN (proper sentence STRUCTURE at least) but nitpicking about someone's typing behavior is more obnoxious than the typing behavior. While I personally prefer to type as accurately as possible (to challenge and improve my own writing), it's a casual conversation on the Internet. Don't kill yourself/others for accidentally capitalizing a few times. thumb.gif I do hate when people mistake your, you're, its, it's, there, their, they're, etc. but I don't make a big deal over it when I see someone make the mistake.
Very true thanks ^_^ because it seems some people just sit on their computer just looking for some type of mistake and then freak out and yell at the person
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I don't see anyone here trying to justify anything. Just a bunch of people joining in on some forum bandwagon to, immaturely, hate on a product most people who do complain about it probably have little experience with, seems they hate it so much. While there is no doubt some educated folks with audio here, I'd bet most peoples "poor experience" is a couple of minutes in the local retail store with their smartphone, then they think it's the cool thing to jump in for the ride so they look cool. I'll put my hands up and admit I used to do the same sort of thing once about Bose, of which while I still think they have high pricing, I do like some of their products (especially the Companion 3's and their new Soundbar which HDTV's can sit on) now that I stopped being a sheep and went out and actually tried the product out properly for myself.


Who is anyone to tell someone else what is or is not good for them? Taste is subjective to the user and, most especially with audio, everyone's ears are completely different. If someone likes the look of Beats, and they think it's a really good sound for them, good for them. If you think something is better, go and buy it and enjoy it, instead of joining a circle jerk on an internet forum, looking down on some kid who has something that makes him happy in life.


For the record, before people think I am some rabid Monster fanboy, I own a pair of AKG k430's which I think are fantastic for their price. I just think this sort of bandwagon behaviour over a brand or it's pricing is ridiculous. It's almost as bad (no, worse actually) than the Apple hate on this forum. I'll also go on record and state I actually like one particular type of Beats headphones (though not the price tag though I won't exactly go on a rabid fanrage warpath about it) and actually thought they sounded pretty good to me, though I think some of the others sounded rather bland with some respect personally. That's not to say someone else may not like the particular style of audio they offer. Obviously plenty of people do, or they wouldn't be so popular regardless of what a few people think on an internet forum.

Your post is very great and well thought of,its getting like a sheep thing to hate on people for owning Beats or even Apple Etc,its a really bad thing to be like that in life to hate what people for what they own.
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I find it more funny when people sorely try to justify their purchase of overpriced products.


It's not about what they do with their money, it's about how they carry themselves. I don't give a rat's ass if you like Beats headphones, Apple products, or other similarly overpriced products. The main thing we who despise such products get annoyed with are the idiots that run around saying they're the absolutely perfect, end-all, best products in the world in their sector, when they're clearly not.


I don't see anyone here trying to justify anything. Just a bunch of people joining in on some forum bandwagon to, immaturely, hate on a product most people who do complain about it probably have little experience with, seems they hate it so much. While there is no doubt some educated folks with audio here, I'd bet most peoples "poor experience" is a couple of minutes in the local retail store with their smartphone, then they think it's the cool thing to jump in for the ride so they look cool. I'll put my hands up and admit I used to do the same sort of thing once about Bose, of which while I still think they have high pricing, I do like some of their products (especially the Companion 3's and their new Soundbar which HDTV's can sit on) now that I stopped being a sheep and went out and actually tried the product out properly for myself.


Who is anyone to tell someone else what is or is not good for them? Taste is subjective to the user and, most especially with audio, everyone's ears are completely different. If someone likes the look of Beats, and they think it's a really good sound for them, good for them. If you think something is better, go and buy it and enjoy it, instead of joining a circle jerk on an internet forum, looking down on some kid who has something that makes him happy in life.


For the record, before people think I am some rabid Monster fanboy, I own a pair of AKG k430's which I think are fantastic for their price. I just think this sort of bandwagon behaviour over a brand or it's pricing is ridiculous. It's almost as bad (no, worse actually) than the Apple hate on this forum. I'll also go on record and state I actually like one particular type of Beats headphones (though not the price tag though I won't exactly go on a rabid fanrage warpath about it) and actually thought they sounded pretty good to me, though I think some of the others sounded rather bland with some respect personally. That's not to say someone else may not like the particular style of audio they offer. Obviously plenty of people do, or they wouldn't be so popular regardless of what a few people think on an internet forum.

I wasn't implying that specifically in here people were acting in such way. I just meant that many of the tech-oriented here on OCN don't bash products just because everyone does and it's cool. "We" have our reasons, in this case the reason is: $300 Beats are ridiculous. We wish we could inform Beats customers about their alternatives, and let them compare the two firsthand; a $300 pair of Beats versus a $100 pair of headphones by Audio Technica or some other maker.

Taste is completely subjective, I don't argue that. Like I said I honestly couldn't care any less what someone "prefers." Just don't run around claiming it's the best and gloating that you spent $500 on X product. That's just typically the behavior we see from adopters of such products. thumb.gif My brother bought an iPhone, but for the wrong reasons. He believed it was a Godlike platform (Apple's marketing strategy and word of mouth from avid followers) until he experienced iTunes and couldn't do a lot of the things my last 3 phones did out of the box. Needless to say it was the last Apple product he buys. THAT'S what's annoying. When you're clueless about the product and its competition, yet you're claiming it's the best out there.
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