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I had honestly forgot that AMD was dropping the 8350's so soon, thanks!
Any Ivy bridge can do 3.0, but if I'm going Intel, I'll be going for the 3770k. My big debate on Intel was actually between that and the 3930k.
I'm actually pretty sure that AMD currently holds the overclocking market since the addition of the 8150, but the 3990k is very strong as well.
That makes sense, and thank you. I'll only be running two cards, and they will both be on 16x slots, so that just about clears up my decision.
Cheers!
AMD is not holding the OCing market, no, not by far. Especially for main stream overclocking. Trust me, go with the 3770K if you can afford it.
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Go intel and 2.0 or 3.0 makes no difference...

Maybe when haswell/maxwell comes out in 2013/2014/... but for now I wouldn't worry

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I haven’t personally ran benchmarks on both but all the ones on this forum and several external sites show that the 3770k has greater performance on cpu intensive operations where the 8150 only edges ahead when all its cores are used, which is pretty much 0 games. I game, I want what is best for games and that’s why I went with 3770k.

Added a few test
http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-i7-vs-bulldozer-fx--4.6ghz--july-2012-battle-of-the-flagships/16520.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1291371/puts-flame-suite-on-cant-decide-fx8150-2600k-or-3770k
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I haven’t personally ran benchmarks on both but all the ones on this forum and several external sites show that the 3770k has greater performance on cpu intensive operations where the 8120 only edges ahead when all its cores are used, which is pretty much 0 games. I game, I want what is best for games and that’s why I went with 3770k.
Last I saw, the 8120 edged ahead when using all cores against the 3570k/2500k, not 2600k/3770k.
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Okay, cool, thanks guys. Looks like Intel is probably the way to go then. I can afford it, taking my time with this build, as it will likely be a show computer until I can afford to drop a 3930k in one.
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I'm going to give you the real answer in the middle of all of this.
With the 3770k you will only be able to food PCIe 3.0 8x for the 7950's, curiously the 990FX chipset can give you PCIe 2.0 16x for both the graphics cards so you end up having the exact same speed in Intel or AMD.
The real question you should make is if you need more processing power to feed the graphics, and taking in consideration how the FX8150 currently is, yes you need.
Get atleast an i5 3570k and you'll be extremely happy.
Don't worry about PCIe speed's cause you wont be losing much by going to 3.0 on Intel or staying 2.0 on AMD.

Hope it cleared your mind.

Edit: In case you might gotten confused
PCIe 2.0 16x=PCIe 3.0 8x bandwidth wise
Edited by Tokkan - 10/16/12 at 3:44pm
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Hope it cleared your mind.

It very much did. Thank you.
post #18 of 26
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Okay, cool, thanks guys. Looks like Intel is probably the way to go then. I can afford it, taking my time with this build, as it will likely be a show computer until I can afford to drop a 3930k in one.
You could always get an i7 3820, then you don't have to upgrade the motherboard as well when you go X79.
 
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I had considered going with the 3820, but I intend to heavily overclock this system, so an unlocked processor is pretty important.
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I had considered going with the 3820, but I intend to heavily overclock this system, so an unlocked processor is pretty important.
You can overclock the 3820, while the multiplier is locked down you can change some settings in it (gonna be honest and tell you that I dont know the specific name), its similar to FSB/BUS.
You can easily reach good speed's with it but I dont know where they usually hit a wall, head over to a 3820 thread cause Im sure there is one and ask them for information.

Example given by a 3820 owner:kizwan
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i7-3820 have limited unlocked multiplier. You can overclock up to x43 only. This is why it only running at 4.3GHz (43 x 100MHz). To overclock more, you need to increased BCLK. For example, increased the BCLK to 105MHz & you'll get 4.5GHz (43 x 105MHz). For 5GHz, BCLK=117 (43 x 117MHz) or the other way around is decreased the multiplier let say x38 & BCLK=132 but anything past 4.6GHz, you need to have good cooling. Always monitor the temperature.

Edited by Tokkan - 10/16/12 at 4:08pm
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