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post #21 of 59
10/16/12 at 10:15pm
Some people are acting like they are surprised. Ever since the fiasco of the Bulldozer, AMD has been crippled with record low stocks, loss of revenue, and I read in an earlier post that they are cutting their workforce by a third. This stuff will eventually lead to AMD delaying their products.
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post #22 of 59
10/16/12 at 10:44pm
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"Delayed til 2014" Could be the difference between December 2013 and January 2014, don't freak out people. I just hope they don't scrap it since that's my plan for upgrade a little over a year from now.
I thought full HSA wasn't going to be implemented til Excavator (Jaguar)?

Impossible to know. AMD hasn't given any dates yet.

But it means that Trinity is going to have to go head to head with ivy bridge(2012), then haswell(2013), and maybe even broadwell(2014)
Trinity has already been on sale for 5 months, and if this is true, its got a minimum of 14 more months to go.

Semiaccurate did an article saying that AMD's Project Win was a plan to put development on hold to reduce operating costs for awhile, in order to get their books balanced. A development freeze would explain a delay in kaveri(and their 3rd gen FX parts)
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10/16/12 at 10:47pm
I'm honestly starting to come around to the idea that AMD is in pretty big trouble. This combined with the news of layoffs combined with PD benches being underwhelming is just all around not good. There best product atm Trinity I don't even think really blew the doors off anyone.

AMD needs to come up with something that people want and they need to do it soon.
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post #24 of 59
10/16/12 at 11:19pm
I think they really should not continue to use AM3+ after Piledriver.
By seeing the current GPU performance, AMD's 9 series chipset will be highly bottlenecked even at dual 16x PCIe 2.0 for future GPUs like Nvidia 7xx and AMD 8xxx.
I mean A-Link Express III seems ok, but Hypertransport at 2000MHz (8GB/s in and 8GB/s out) is obviously has become low bandwidth and has high latency with large overhead too to transfer data from CPU to GPU and vice versa.
We need a new CPU/APU of this kind that it has lots of L3 (at least 10 MB) with 4000 MHz or more default IMC (L3) frequency and this CPU must have an integrated PCIe 3.0 controller too. They can continue use A-Link III with CPU's integrated PCIe controller, this will obviously cut I/O overhead and also reduce latency, making more efficient for current and future SSD. AMD now have all those latest instruction set too. I think this kind of AMD CPU can easily compete Intel's current Ivy and future CPU.
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post #25 of 59
10/17/12 at 12:03am
Sounds like FUD spread by short sellers.
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post #26 of 59
10/17/12 at 12:06am
AMD remains strong as a mid-level to low end CPU vendor regardless of this news. We'll have to wait and see if AMD can still compete if they come out with 28nm chips while Intel is releasing 14nm chips.

Looks like AMD is going through a 'refocusing' process I feel they'll emerge stronger from in the long run I hope. No need to remind us what happens to pricing if there's a monopoly. Hopefully another company moves foward to fill the role if it should....ARM?

In a couple years would be nice to see AMD be able to give Intel a run for the money on the high-end spectrum again. By then my Ivy will be ready to be replaced and if AMD had something on Broadwell I'd consider. wink.gif
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post #27 of 59
10/17/12 at 12:13am
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Sounds like FUD spread by short sellers.
As if short sellers NEEDED to spread FUD about AMD. :/
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post #28 of 59
10/17/12 at 1:28am
YU NO WAT I WANT?

FX-8150 @4.8ghz 310w full load not 500w+

I really like them to just to work on the powerconsumption before the performance
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post #29 of 59
10/17/12 at 1:55pm
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I think they really should not continue to use AM3+ after Piledriver.
By seeing the current GPU performance, AMD's 9 series chipset will be highly bottlenecked even at dual 16x PCIe 2.0 for future GPUs like Nvidia 7xx and AMD 8xxx.
I mean A-Link Express III seems ok, but Hypertransport at 2000MHz (8GB/s in and 8GB/s out) is obviously has become low bandwidth and has high latency with large overhead too to transfer data from CPU to GPU and vice versa.
We need a new CPU/APU of this kind that it has lots of L3 (at least 10 MB) with 4000 MHz or more default IMC (L3) frequency and this CPU must have an integrated PCIe 3.0 controller too. They can continue use A-Link III with CPU's integrated PCIe controller, this will obviously cut I/O overhead and also reduce latency, making more efficient for current and future SSD. AMD now have all those latest instruction set too. I think this kind of AMD CPU can easily compete Intel's current Ivy and future CPU.

A-Link Express III ; What is that;

Trinity has A link Express iii ;
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post #30 of 59
10/17/12 at 3:19pm
I'm scared.
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