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Subbed for inspiration on my own M8 build, since I don't have a clue how I'm going to run the tubing. smile.gif You seem to know what you're doing, so I'll be following your re-build with much interest! Looks great man! thumb.gif
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Hmmm... I say go for the pedestal! Make life easier wink.gif and I also like the sLight idea as well! That would make things really pop in the all black case!

Jeffinslaw

Yeah I think it will definitely look better - plus after all of the machinations I've gone through thus far in this build - once I get it all back together finally... if I get 'the itch' again in the next year or so - that will be directed at a different build. I'm sick of not having a computer that's easily accessable (had to temporarily shelve my iMac just to have more working room at chair level because doing everything hunched over on the floor was doing a number on my back). Sucks getting old. frown.gif

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Subbed for inspiration on my own M8 build, since I don't have a clue how I'm going to run the tubing. smile.gif You seem to know what you're doing, so I'll be following your re-build with much interest! Looks great man! thumb.gif

Welcome aboard! Yeah, the tubing runs aren't as straightforward as one might like in this case. That's one of the main problems that precipitate my decision to go ahead with the pedestal. Once I had the UT60s on the PSU side I discovered that a rad on the bottom (at least in push-pull configuration) couldn't have the tubing running through the lower grommeted hole in the case. I could have left the left-most pull fan off and made it with 3 fittings (90+extension+90) or drilled for a passthrough bung - but that would have been in a very thin place on the divider plate.

Also with a rad in the roof of the CPU side (even the smaller XT45 that's now in place there) you still can't have anything - even a fan controller - in the topmost flexbay slot. frown.gif

I'm definitely learning as I go, but I'll make sure there's plenty of pictures to document how things are laid out - and if there's anything you have questions on or want me to take very close shots of to aid in your own build... just let me know and I'll try to get them up ASAP! biggrin.gif

Oh and welcome to CaseLabs country! thumb.gif
post #43 of 273
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OK so more for documentation purposes than anything else - here are a couple of my finished project... which immediately got un-finished and is now going to get un-finished completely so that I can do a pedestal and have the easiest time ever dealing with the tubing runs and wiring... who knows, before I'm done I might just go hard tubing like B-Neg is always tempting me to do with his builds.

So where it all ended first:




And then where it is today (before deconstruction AGAIN rolleyes.gif)


And HERE is where the problems start to become visible...

(Notice how I haven't even run ANY of my PSU wiring yet - except for the two needed to power the fans - which are hanging out anyway)!

Then there's THIS little problem...

I'd like to have that tube (above) come through that hole... but that ain't happening any time soon...

Because...

See that fitting on the back connection? That's about 1 1/4" above that hole - and there's about 1/2" space between the side of the UT60 and the divider plate... so even with some creative triple rotary action - I'd still have to drill.

Plus there's the whole (I wanted push-pull on both UT60s so I could run the fans as low as 600-700RPM for complete silence) coupled with the problem that by the time I have the drives wired, and all the PSU cabling and tubing fitted in there somewhere... there's going to be almost no room for the air to move anyway - plus I'll have to run my front fans faster just to maintain positive pressure to make sure that it doesn't start sucking dust and cat hair in through the unfiltered ventilated side panel... cuz I'm sure not going to put a window on that side with how ugly it's going to look! tongue.gif

However, I just got my confirmation email from CaseLabs... my pedestal is on the way - so now I can concentrate much more on making a clean and neat rig with no concern for logistics as far as component placement. In my first build I had to put the drives on the CPU side and the res on the PSU side - now everything can have it's place and I'll still have plenty of room to expand for more drives, or more rads, etc down the road. biggrin.gif
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 5/24/13 at 6:23am
post #44 of 273
Looking forward to your work with that pedestal man!! I might have a line on a used one, and it's got me re-thinking my own plans. These big cases aren't so big when you stuff thick rads into them. redface.gif
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Well, look at what arrived early! I love the fact that I can have something from CaseLabs shipped FedEx standard ground and still get it 2 days later! I really feel bad for the guys in Canada, or even worse in the EU... the wait must be hell. frown.gif

So without further ado.. the box:

Now opened:

And assembled (up to rad supports) I probably will assemble fans, rads, supports, etc.. outside for easy installation... but need to spend some time measuring clearances before I decide if I'm going push-pull on both or just push.


Everything was up to the usual CaseLabs level of quality... which is to say INSANELY FANTASTIC! Everything was packed flawlessly, separated by bubble wrap, bagged and labled appropriately. The instructions for the assembly were very clear and precise... and totally unnecessary - however, I can see how it might be possible to put the top and bottom together incorrectly (one of them facing the wrong direction)... but not if you noticed that there's an extra hole drilled in the side to indicate orientation... everything was included along with a few extras of each screw, etc.

Once again, you pay a little bit more for these - but you get 10X more than you pay for IMHO... at least if you consider cases from Corsair, Antec, etc... to be "reasonably priced" that is. They really can't come anywhere close - and I doubt they would even if they were charging $400-500 for an 800D!
post #46 of 273
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Well, I had to put another order for fittings in today - I keep changing my mind on the loop configuration...

Originally I had planned to put the pump down below in the pedestal - but then I thought about contingencies... mainly that if I had a pump failure... I'd have to drain/disassemble everything just to get to it. If I put it in the main area of the case then I've got easy access - and only need to get into the pedestal if I lose a fan on my rads. So at the moment I'm thinking of something like this:

RES->MCP35X->XT45->CPU->GPU->GPU->UT60->UT60->RES

I've ordered a T-fitting and a passthrough for routing a drain from the rear ports on both UT60's in the pedestal - so I can put the drain out the back of the ped, and just open my 'fillport' (top port on the XT45) with a book under the front casters for good, fast drainage. Should get everything but a little bit in the UT60s maybe without using air to pressurize from the top.

Oh, also ordered by two sheets of acrylic for the lightbox - we'll see how that turns out before I decide if it's a go or not. wink.gif
post #47 of 273
Subbed! Awesome build! thumb.gif
post #48 of 273
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Subbed! Awesome build! thumb.gif

Welcome aboard for the second go-around! Also... love the avatar... biggrin.gif Don't catch him much anymore - unless he's on Coast-to-Coast as a guest and I'm up late... but still. thumb.gif On a related, and totally off-topic note, KNYE and his house in Pahrump is right next door to my wife's uncle's property out there. I could never find his house until I realized I could just drive towards that trailer with the 90ft antenna in the back yard! LOL! Of course now I think he's in the Philippines...
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 5/29/13 at 6:56pm
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On a related, and totally off-topic note, KNYE and his house in Pahrump is right next door to my wife's uncle's property out there. I could never find his house until I realized I could just drive towards that trailer with the 90ft antenna in the back yard! LOL! Of course now I think he's in the Philippines...

Actually, he's currently back in Pahrump. His "No Compete" is up... and he's looking for an appropriate gig. I am impatiently waiting. Remember "Art's Parts"?

Speaking of parts...
And now - back to the topic biggrin.gif
post #50 of 273
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So I wanted to get a little progress done today but several things came up (life stuff, not build stuff) and I have some unexpected modding that has to occur before getting down to business...


As you can see, the radiator mounts for the M8 pedestal are not created with alphacool radiators in mind (or any other radiators with ports on both sides of the rad for that matter).

Close up of problem:


Not a huge deal, but it is one that will cause me to crack out the tools. I had originally thought I could simply invert the rad mount so that the frame protruded from the sides of the pedestal. Although this will technically work... you won't be able to put the side covers on... rolleyes.gif

Needless to say that's not an option in my book! Plus it's really not necessary as there is so little material that needs to be cut away. I have to decide whether I'm just going to grind away a round area that's just large enough to clear the ports on that side, or if I'm going to just cut away a section 1/2" or so along the whole side. I'm thinking probably the latter, but the former would definitely be 'cleaner' as far as appearance. I'm not too worried either way as they won't be visible once the side panels are in place.

That is a good thing because I'm fairly tool-challenged at the moment - OK not so much in not having tools, but more in the fact that I don't have a shop area to work with since I'm still slowly unpacking and my garage is stuffed with boxes, etc. biggrin.gif
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