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LOL... what? tongue.gif
I know tompsonn is quite familar with the Windows OS API from other posts.... I was wondering how much cross-platform development he does since Java is quite useful there.
C is support on virtuall all platforms but it isn't nearly as portable and always requires recompilation for different ISA.

You weren't replying to Tompsonn though

ANSI C is portable btw.
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LOL... what? tongue.gif
I know tompsonn is quite familar with the Windows OS API from other posts.... I was wondering how much cross-platform development he does since Java is quite useful there.
C is support on virtuall all platforms but it isn't nearly as portable and always requires recompilation for different ISA.

Nice round number - 0
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You weren't replying to Tompsonn though
ANSI C is portable btw.

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You're mainly a Windows developer, right?

I suppose my post wasn't completely taken in the humorous way I intended. I didn't mention all the languages I know and like nor did I mention some of the languages I dislike. I merely commented on some of the most influential as far as language design is concerned (some popular languages such as C++ really haven't affected language design to any real degree).

I assume (based on some later posts) that you're speaking about my dislike of Java. To be clear, I don't particularly like the Java VM. I really don't like the java syntax. If I (for some reason) needed to use the java VM, I would use clojure or one of the several lisp dialects that compile to the java VM or jython (if I weren't concerned with performance). The JVM is cross-platform, but that doesn't require the use or like of the java syntax (I also don't like MS's proprietary "java copy" called C#).

That said, if I am going to write a cross-platform application, I would rather write it in Qt and C++. The performance is much, MUCH better than java and the amount of new code is about the same (only the simplest of java applications don't require additional code when switching platforms). If I'm just scripting something, lisp or python are fine cross-platform.

@Thomson Which parts of ANSI C aren't cross platform? I know that doing anything in C requires loads of libraries that aren't in the standard, but that doesn't mean that the ANSI part isn't compatible.
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I suppose my post wasn't completely taken in the humorous way I intended. I didn't mention all the languages I know and like nor did I mention some of the languages I dislike. I merely commented on some of the most influential as far as language design is concerned (some popular languages such as C++ really haven't affected language design to any real degree).
I assume (based on some later posts) that you're speaking about my dislike of Java. To be clear, I don't particularly like the Java VM. I really don't like the java syntax. If I (for some reason) needed to use the java VM, I would use clojure or one of the several lisp dialects that compile to the java VM or jython (if I weren't concerned with performance). The JVM is cross-platform, but that doesn't require the use or like of the java syntax (I also don't like MS's proprietary "java copy" called C#).
That said, if I am going to write a cross-platform application, I would rather write it in Qt and C++. The performance is much, MUCH better than java and the amount of new code is about the same (only the simplest of java applications don't require additional code when switching platforms). If I'm just scripting something, lisp or python are fine cross-platform.
@Thomson Which parts of ANSI C aren't cross platform? I know that doing anything in C requires loads of libraries that aren't in the standard, but that doesn't mean that the ANSI part isn't compatible.

I don't recall saying ANSI C wasn't cross platform headscratch.gif
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I don't recall saying ANSI C wasn't cross platform headscratch.gif

Sorry, I took misunderstood your reaction to the C comment in the post above mine.
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Sorry, I took misunderstood your reaction to the C comment in the post above mine.

You can join Plan9 in the "misinterpreting tompsonn's posts club" biggrin.gif Now consists of Plan9... and hajile. tongue.gif
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Definitely C++
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Definitely C++

C++ might be the best thing that happened to programmers. Although I'm starting to fall in love with C#
    
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the one using 0 and 1
today?
It should be 0,=,1
Why add neutral ?because that is how our. World is programmed ,positive neutral negative.without the neutral factor I suspect its the main unknow.i suspect it was tested at the beginning of computing and was intentionally left out.even back then they now negative neutral. And positive (dare I say polarity)
Edited by drbaltazar - 10/19/12 at 10:18am
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the one using 0 and 1
today?
It should be 0,=,1
Why add neutral ?because that is how our. World is programmed ,positive neutral negative.without the neutral factor I suspect its the main unknow.i suspect it was tested at the beginning of computing and was intentionally left out.even back then they now negative neutral. And positive (dare I say polarity)

Mate you are talking about machine code, and this works with 1 and 0's for a good reason :
- 1 = electrical current flows
- 0 = no current flows
That's how it is, physically.

That said, the point of this thread is talking about programming languages and machine code isn't actually.

BTW, what sense would have your "neutral" ? Even if it existed I can't see what it could mean.
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