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post #1 of 19
10/17/12 at 8:51am
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Hi guys,

I've been doing some home repairs for a long time now. Looking at friends machines, laptop blah blah. Anyway, I've got a whole bunch of disks now that I use for diagnostics and things and was wondering how would I get them on my PXE Boot.

Instead of constantly swapping disks or whatever, just network boot!

Currently at the moment I have Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise - pretty much the full works as roles go. I've got some windows os' on PXE Boot. Does anyone know if its possible to get some legacy images on the Windows deployment service? I am fully aware of the linux/unix options out there, but to be honest, I tend to stay away from linux unless I have to (apologise to all linux nuts for that).

If anyone would have any suggestions or guides, that would be great
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post #2 of 19
10/17/12 at 10:30am
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Hi guys,
I've been doing some home repairs for a long time now. Looking at friends machines, laptop blah blah. Anyway, I've got a whole bunch of disks now that I use for diagnostics and things and was wondering how would I get them on my PXE Boot.
Instead of constantly swapping disks or whatever, just network boot!
Currently at the moment I have Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise - pretty much the full works as roles go. I've got some windows os' on PXE Boot. Does anyone know if its possible to get some legacy images on the Windows deployment service? I am fully aware of the linux/unix options out there, but to be honest, I tend to stay away from linux unless I have to (apologise to all linux nuts for that).
If anyone would have any suggestions or guides, that would be great

I know for a fact that WDS will do Windows Pro SP1 and newer...probably Windows 2000 as well. WDS is great, but very basic as the role goes. You have to manually create and capture your image. Check out the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit, which is a completely free product that USES WDS. It will make things much easier.

I use Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager at home, since it's what I deal with for a living, and I use that for my imaging. It's not free though, and does a lot more than you would ever need/want at home.

Here is a great post about MDT 2012:
http://www.windows-noob.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5367-microsoft-deployment-toolkit-mdt-2012/

If you google for MDT 2012 guides, they are out there.
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post #3 of 19
10/17/12 at 12:29pm
We use MDT 2012 at work. Its fantastic.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/video/tdbe12-deployment-day-session1.aspx << also a good crash course in MDT 2012.
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10/17/12 at 5:52pm
I can definitely attest that WDS (the WDS role, anyway) is frustrating to use. Since you have Server 2008 Enterprise, I assume you have access to the SCCM suite. SCCM is really cool and can do all kinds of stuff, but it's not worth the effort for something like this.
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post #5 of 19
10/17/12 at 5:56pm
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Hi guys,
I've been doing some home repairs for a long time now. Looking at friends machines, laptop blah blah. Anyway, I've got a whole bunch of disks now that I use for diagnostics and things and was wondering how would I get them on my PXE Boot.
Instead of constantly swapping disks or whatever, just network boot!
Currently at the moment I have Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise - pretty much the full works as roles go. I've got some windows os' on PXE Boot. Does anyone know if its possible to get some legacy images on the Windows deployment service? I am fully aware of the linux/unix options out there, but to be honest, I tend to stay away from linux unless I have to (apologise to all linux nuts for that).
If anyone would have any suggestions or guides, that would be great

WDS is crap for this. You won't be able to boot diagnostic tools. I have two PXE environments - one is WDS for Windows installs and another (yes I know you wanted to stay away) is a Ubuntu VM on a separate subnet running tftp-hpa for booting my diagnostic utilities, etc.
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post #6 of 19
10/18/12 at 6:05am
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WDS is crap for this. You won't be able to boot diagnostic tools. I have two PXE environments - one is WDS for Windows installs and another (yes I know you wanted to stay away) is a Ubuntu VM on a separate subnet running tftp-hpa for booting my diagnostic utilities, etc.

Yeah I kinda thought that it would be that sort of scenario, which is fine as that's what I'll have to do I think. I don't really want to alter my WDS as its working very nicely. So how did you set up your PXE boot may I ask? Anything you can tell me in the way of guides and tips?
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post #7 of 19
10/18/12 at 6:10am
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Yeah I kinda thought that it would be that sort of scenario, which is fine as that's what I'll have to do I think. I don't really want to alter my WDS as its working very nicely. So how did you set up your PXE boot may I ask? Anything you can tell me in the way of guides and tips?

Yeah. You can run WDS in mixed-mode or some crap, but too much hassle.
Anyway. To set mine up, I run a Ubuntu server VM inside a Hyper-V box. It's on a separate subnet with its own DHCP server (also running on the Ubuntu VM), so as to not interfere with my existing WDS set up. The tftp server is tftp-hpa.

I can't find the guide I used to set it up now.... crap. But there's a lot if you give it a quick Google. Or maybe I'll end up finding the guide.
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10/18/12 at 6:30am
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Yeah. You can run WDS in mixed-mode or some crap, but too much hassle.
Anyway. To set mine up, I run a Ubuntu server VM inside a Hyper-V box. It's on a separate subnet with its own DHCP server (also running on the Ubuntu VM), so as to not interfere with my existing WDS set up. The tftp server is tftp-hpa.
I can't find the guide I used to set it up now.... crap. But there's a lot if you give it a quick Google. Or maybe I'll end up finding the guide.

Ok sounds reasonable so far. How did you set up your subnet? Have you got managed switches?
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10/18/12 at 6:34am
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Ok sounds reasonable so far. How did you set up your subnet? Have you got managed switches?

Nope. Don't need managed switches for a separate subnet, just use any old separate switch and give nodes a different addressing scheme (I used 172.16.0.0/24 as opposed to 192.168.168.0/24 which is the main subnet). Then set up the DHCP server to hand out addresses for that network.
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post #10 of 19
10/18/12 at 10:27am
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Nope. Don't need managed switches for a separate subnet, just use any old separate switch and give nodes a different addressing scheme (I used 172.16.0.0/24 as opposed to 192.168.168.0/24 which is the main subnet). Then set up the DHCP server to hand out addresses for that network.

OK Cool. We'll I'm currently in the market for a better router for my setup at home. Got my eye on a TP-LINK business edition router with multiple WAN and can handle multiple SSID's. This way I can properly and securely route traffic no problem on a different subnet. Plus, I'm also interested in the VLAN and load balancing features of this baby:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006TAQGAS/ref=asc_df_B006TAQGAS10172396?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B006TAQGAS

Let me know what you think.
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120GB OCZ Vertex 3 Asus DVD/RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Ultimate 
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24" Syncmaster Logitech MK25 Corsair 850W Corsair 600t White 
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Logitech MK25 Asus Xonar DX 
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Intel Core i5 2500k Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3 XFX 6970 HD 8GB Corsair Vengence DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120GB OCZ Vertex 3 Asus DVD/RW Corsair H100 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" Syncmaster Logitech MK25 Corsair 850W Corsair 600t White 
MouseAudio
Logitech MK25 Asus Xonar DX 
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