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The MBP gets produced for years now in the least env. friendly way. The machined aluminum body is one of the most wasteful ways to get to the same result other companies were using for years - not just for laptops - patented by an American company ofc...biggrin.gif
Right, unibody MBP/MBAs have to be "that precise"...other devices that are cast-machined are just sub-par (including anything from medical instruments to pro-SLRs etc).

At least independent agencies assist the welfare of the people and not corporations still...oh, wait...
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I'm surprised you're really trying to use logic here sub50hz (as well as in your other posts). This is merely another easy Apple hate thread on OCN, standard operation procedures dictate only to post about how terrible Apple is.
It really isn't worth trying anymore, nothing will change, we will keep having these sort of threads merely because it riles people up... it's just sad is all.

Oh, well, I could say I am with you on that.
It is not Apple to be smacked. Apple is a public company seeking to maximize profits for the shareholders at all costs - like 99.9% of public companies.
It is the US gov, US courts, US patents office, EPEAT etc which are immoral supporting them at all costs, and make examples out of them.
Businesses are expected but not required to be moral examples. Public servants are.
Edited by pcfoo - 10/17/12 at 11:56am
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Thread Starter 
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Can we please get back to the original discussion of the meaning of the EPEAT standard?
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All that says is that in their opinion (and mine as well, do not try and take my comments out of context) the new rMBP is not qualified to meet epeat Gold. If you guys think Apple is the beginning and the end of palm-greasing to get what they want, you're disillusioned.
Oh man, everyone does it, I completely forgot man. Thanks, Apple and EPEAT are excused.
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Apple is like the kid that bullies everyone for their lunch money.

That analogy is very wrong. Instead, Apple is more of the cool kid who says you have to do X to be in his crowd, and all to many people are willing to do X.
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Can we please get back to the original discussion of the meaning of the EPEAT standard?


Well it is obvious that EPEAT certification has no meaning anymore. So consumers can either take time off from their voluntary slave work and complain about this to get it fixed or they can continue struggling to live their life and treasure the few things that bring them joy.

Is there anything to actually discuss? EPEAT has certified something that clearly does not pass the requirements. The requirements were either wrong, which is obviously not true based on the history of it and how desperate some companies are to be certified, or the current certification has been made meaningless by the certification of the apple product.
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post #36 of 39
The wired article is mush more informative.
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We’re at an inflection point. We can allow the throwaway design to infect the rest of the computer industry, or we can stand up and tell EPEAT that this design trend is unacceptable.

The issue here isn't Apple bullying or getting its way, as every business does this when given the opportunity. The issue is the relaxation of previously defined standards that lessen the environmental impact of our technological advancement.

EPEAT copped out
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“[The PVC] declined to specify precise parameters for what constitutes ‘easy and safe’ disassembly or removal of components.”
Meaning this provision means nothing now as everything can be easy and safe to disassemble if easy and safe aren't defined.
 
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All that says is that in their opinion (and mine as well, do not try and take my comments out of context) the new rMBP is not qualified to meet epeat Gold. If you guys think Apple is the beginning and the end of palm-greasing to get what they want, you're disillusioned.
Oh man, everyone does it, I completely forgot man. Thanks, Apple and EPEAT are excused.

This.

To be a player at that level you have to basically be a horrible person. Lie, cheat, steal, etc. You think the guys running for President are nice guys? Negative. There is tens and hundreds of billions of dollars a year at stake, you're damn right they are going to do everything in their power legal or not to keep those numbers ever rising.
Edited by Segovax - 10/17/12 at 4:30pm
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Oh man, everyone does it, I completely forgot man. Thanks, Apple and EPEAT are excused.

I never said it excuses them from doing anything unethical, only that it's the reality of big business in 2012. Ethics went out the window when America became the greedy nation it is today.
post #39 of 39
I know I'm a little off topic regarding EPEAT, but lets face it, we're all guilty of supporting unethical business practice and poor working conditions to some extent.

Foxconn, the company responsible for the working conditions that allegedly led to those suicides we've all heard about.... well these are a few of their other customers.


Major customers of Foxconn currently include:

Acer Inc. (Taiwan)[41]
Amazon.com (United States)[7]
Apple Inc. (United States)[42]
Cisco (United States)[43]
Dell (United States)[44]
Hewlett-Packard (United States)[45]
Intel (United States)[46]
Microsoft (United States)[9]
Motorola Mobility (United States)[44]
Nintendo (Japan)[47]
Nokia (Finland)[42]
Samsung Electronics (South Korea)[48]
Sony (Japan)[8]
Toshiba (Japan) [49]
Vizio (United States)[50]

(country of headquarters in parentheses)

source- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Major_customers
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