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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

Actually.... the FX-4XXX uses significantly less power than Phenom II x4.

Must have looked wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvKgj3Kb3o
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post #42 of 182
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Must have looked wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvKgj3Kb3o

This review says otherwise.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100_8.html#sect0
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Thats not really the problem, its that allot of applications are optimized for the intel uarch, and intel invests big money to keep it this way. they also have the dominant market share, which doesn't help matters. AMD chips benchmark and perform much better with non windows based OS's, and gee, maybe its becuase Intel can't strangle hold the foss community.

There is no optimizing for any particular architecture. AMD and Intel both have an x86 ISA, but Intel has the better architecture thus most programs are compiled for it.

Intel performs equally well under open source OS.
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they will likely make plenty of profits.

Well they're not profiting currently and they are selling these chips for way less then the introductory prices for Bulldozer. If AMD turns a profit in the next year it will likely be due to headcount reductions.

I know margins on silicon itself are pretty decent but with no way of knowing how much it cost to develop PD it's all just speculation. I just can't imagine Plan A was selling the flagship model for 200 dollars when a decade ago they had chips that cost over 1000 dollars like Intel.
    
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post #46 of 182
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Originally Posted by SCollins View Post

Thats not really the problem, its that allot of applications are optimized for the intel uarch, and intel invests big money to keep it this way. they also have the dominant market share, which doesn't help matters. AMD chips benchmark and perform much better with non windows based OS's, and gee, maybe its becuase Intel can't strangle hold the foss community.

EEEEhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that argument is hard to make. When phenom came out, it actually was an extremely solid CPU. Despite intel having the software advantage, the AMD performed well, was priced well, and did well in the market. It was only when the company was doing poorly that they ended up doing the worst thing they possibly could have done, and that was to take funding out of R&D which turned the bulldozer series from being a good chip....to a crappy chip. (Fun business fact: If you own a business that is facing financial burden, you NEVER EVER EVER EVER take money out of R&D. If you are rich, pay money out of your pocket to avoid the failure of the company. Why do something so crazy? Well if you take money out of R&D and you are trying to sell stuff that comes FROM R&D, then your secret projects will fail and you will be forced to sell crap. This will further cripple your business, and lead to your demise. )

As soon as they touched that money, it was the end of AMD. So really the performance issues with AMD stem from morons who have no clue on how to run a tech company rather than any software based issues.
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post #47 of 182
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Your logical upgrade is a 3570. Why would you even consider going amd?
Well I wouldn't even consider a 3570 since I don't feel like it's worth going to, the i7-3770 does do significantly better in x264 encoding though which I do a lot. I'd like to go back to AMD since Intel are an evil company and don't deserve to do as well as they are doing, they're quite a lot like Apple whereas AMD are like smaller Andriod company.
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Without a significant improvement in both well multi-threading and single-threaded applications, I can't even consider AMD for other than IGP/HTPC usage. The i5 3570K is a lot faster for not significantly more money in everything but H.264 encoding (3D rendering and gaming), still, and to be honest I'm still skeptic that the FX-8350 will be more than 10-15% faster compared to FX-8150, which is on-par and in many cases slower than my overclocked Phenom II X6 1055T.

It would make sense to go FX-8350 if it actually was any better in rendering or other well scaling on core increase-type tasks, but it hardly seems to be with these numbers. It's dissapointing how AMD keeps coming with these lukewarm improvements. Yes, Ivy/Sandy update was not significant either, but at least Intel has a serious lead in performance and didn't make a huge flop out of a way overdue architecture that Bulldozer was.

I hope AMD picks up the pace and dumps Bulldozer and gets a functional better scaling 8-core architecture going soon. If not, I'm definitely changing my 1055T to a i5/i7 in the future. I think they know where they belong to on the performance metrics too, since they're pricing their flagship so low. AMD is lucky to have some solid fans, I can't be bothered with their flagships until they're a lot better.
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If this is true, good job AMD. Look at that quad core going for 125 dollars. That is a nice package for a lot of low end builds. Even gaming builds will do fine with that.
 
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I love my 8150. It performs like a champ.

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