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post #121 of 145
I would go for the 3930K, Ivy coming up for it, so a wise move.

This is with 2X7870's OC'd and a 4.7ghz 2500k. I am almost at the limit.

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post #122 of 145
Thanks Jesse, good point, lets not talk about z77 coming to and END.
Edited by KaRLiToS - 10/19/12 at 10:03pm
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post #123 of 145
thread has gone downhill...some good information exchange and first hand experience posted aswell, so hopefully the op will make an informed choice and be happy.
post #124 of 145
"ofc it is better otherwise I would not get it"...
e-peen statements are to be ignored, if not entertaining that is.

It is proven that the IB is slightly faster than SB.
SB-E is based on SB/Xeons. Clock for clock it is not faster than IB.
If you don't do heavily multithreaded stuff, you don't get the benefits of SB-E.
In my office I work on an (now) 3yo dual CPU Quad Xeon system...lotsa threads. The performance gap from the o/ced 3820 in have @ home is simply insane. I work with design tools @ work, and those support multiple threads only under certain functions.

Now, for someone to buy a SB-E and claim it is better cause he did his home videos a tad faster or got 1% better FPS, sorry, it is not justified from a objective point of view. Then again is Quad-SLI or w/e else we are doing with X79 home systems justified? We just treat ourselves I guess, and we feel good about it, so it is - but that's not an objective pov to project to others.

If you don't regularly do demanding multithreaded tasks, if you don't render LARGE videos, export large number of big RAW files with LR, render CG etc tasks that take HOURS or many many minutes of your day and cutting those down by 50% would mean something for your productivity, a 3930K is a placebo. Sorry. It is not faster for you than the 3770K in a meaningful way and for many tasks it is not really faster than a 3570K either. Unless you spend you days bragging in OCN about your fps being 125 instead of 120 for the poor bastards with the IB chips, and that your heaven score is that much more.

Also, about CPUs and warranty...rly, who RMA's CPUs? Haven't heard issues with CPUs for ages. As mentioned those are easily the most resilient of all components of our PCs.
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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

"ofc it is better otherwise I would not get it"...
e-peen statements are to be ignored, if not entertaining that is.
It is proven that the IB is slightly faster than SB.
SB-E is based on SB/Xeons. Clock for clock it is not faster than IB.
If you don't do heavily multithreaded stuff, you don't get the benefits of SB-E.
In my office I work on an (now) 3yo dual CPU Quad Xeon system...lotsa threads. The performance gap from the o/ced 3820 in have @ home is simply insane. I work with design tools @ work, and those support multiple threads only under certain functions.
Now, for someone to buy a SB-E and claim it is better cause he did his home videos a tad faster or got 1% better FPS, sorry, it is not justified from a objective point of view. Then again is Quad-SLI or w/e else we are doing with X79 home systems justified? We just treat ourselves I guess, and we feel good about it, so it is - but that's not an objective pov to project to others.
If you don't regularly do demanding multithreaded tasks, if you don't render LARGE videos, export large number of big RAW files with LR, render CG etc tasks that take HOURS or many many minutes of your day and cutting those down by 50% would mean something for your productivity, a 3930K is a placebo. Sorry. It is not faster for you than the 3770K in a meaningful way and for many tasks it is not really faster than a 3570K either. Unless you spend you days bragging in OCN about your fps being 125 instead of 120 for the poor bastards with the IB chips, and that your heaven score is that much more.
Also, about CPUs and warranty...rly, who RMA's CPUs? Haven't heard issues with CPUs for ages. As mentioned those are easily the most resilient of all components of our PCs.

For 2 cards and above, you will see SB-E pull away from Quad Core Ivy.

Yeah sure your Ivy Quad and Big single card won't show a difference, but with 3 cards it definitely will.

Your comparing a Nehalem system to a Sandy Bridge. Not a fair comparison by any stretch.

The rendering time with a 6 core over a 4 is greatly reduced.
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post #126 of 145
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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

"ofc it is better otherwise I would not get it"...
e-peen statements are to be ignored, if not entertaining that is.
It is proven that the IB is slightly faster than SB.
SB-E is based on SB/Xeons. Clock for clock it is not faster than IB.
If you don't do heavily multithreaded stuff, you don't get the benefits of SB-E.
In my office I work on an (now) 3yo dual CPU Quad Xeon system...lotsa threads. The performance gap from the o/ced 3820 in have @ home is simply insane. I work with design tools @ work, and those support multiple threads only under certain functions.
Now, for someone to buy a SB-E and claim it is better cause he did his home videos a tad faster or got 1% better FPS, sorry, it is not justified from a objective point of view. Then again is Quad-SLI or w/e else we are doing with X79 home systems justified? We just treat ourselves I guess, and we feel good about it, so it is - but that's not an objective pov to project to others.
If you don't regularly do demanding multithreaded tasks, if you don't render LARGE videos, export large number of big RAW files with LR, render CG etc tasks that take HOURS or many many minutes of your day and cutting those down by 50% would mean something for your productivity, a 3930K is a placebo. Sorry. It is not faster for you than the 3770K in a meaningful way and for many tasks it is not really faster than a 3570K either. Unless you spend you days bragging in OCN about your fps being 125 instead of 120 for the poor bastards with the IB chips, and that your heaven score is that much more.
Also, about CPUs and warranty...rly, who RMA's CPUs? Haven't heard issues with CPUs for ages. As mentioned those are easily the most resilient of all components of our PCs.

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I am looking into these processors on mainly gaming, video, image, and audio editing and encoding, multitasking and more.


dtolios? Warranty has nothing to do with this thread, my point was: Is it normal to take apart a CPU just to be able to OC it to 5Ghz.
Edited by KaRLiToS - 10/19/12 at 10:03pm
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post #127 of 145
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Originally Posted by Jesse^_^ View Post

For 2 cards and above, you will see SB-E pull away from Quad Core Ivy.
Yeah sure your Ivy Quad and Big single card won't show a difference, but with 3 cards it definitely will.
Your comparing a Nehalem system to a Sandy Bridge. Not a fair comparison by any stretch.
The rendering time with a 6 core over a 4 is greatly reduced.

proof.gif IM running True Pci-e 3.0 16x16 And Going up VS 3930ks and 3960x i have some of the top Gpu Scores ..

Not many people run Tri and quad cards so there might not be even any proof to back that up..

I have never heard it myself so i doubt there is anything to back it up but theory and opinion.
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post #128 of 145
I know what I have, and I know why I chose to go X79 after all - even if I did not want to go all the way off the bat and get the $600 3930K.

As off multi-GPU setups, sorry, but paying 2x the price (CPU+Mobo) for a single digit % performance, is not a good deal. If you need a 3rd card and your Z77 board properly supports it, you will get a great % increase over the 2-card config already. And if you need the 3rd 7970 / 670 / 680 etc, it is probably better to get the 3-GPUs + Mobo + i5 for the same monies as a 2-card X79/3930K system would be.

And that's what the thread is all about - at least from my point of view: IB CPUs - even the i5 - are very fast, and perfectly capable of any short of task.
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proof.gif IM running True Pci-e 3.0 16x16 And Going up VS 3930ks and 3960x i have some of the top Gpu Scores ..

I just linked proof above, my 4.7ghz Sandy was hitting 100% a few times with OC'd 7870's in BFBC2. Post 122

You may get the graphics scores close, but overall its no contest.
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I just linked proof above, my 4.7ghz Sandy was hitting 100% a few times with OC'd 7870's in BFBC2. Post 122
You may get the graphics scores close, but overall its no contest.

I think it is a hardware issue my man..

I play Battlefield 3 myself and have never came close to 100% Cpu Use and i have more powerful Gpus then you.

Battlefield 3 is one token game that benefits from cores the other 99.9% hate them.

If you like i could re install it i have 2 monitors 2560x1440 and a 120hz you can pick the res and the settings but i do play maxxed out MSAA maxxed.

Reason it is not installed is i just did a Clean Windows install after getting my Overclocks Stable.
    
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