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post #71 of 145
*cough* xeon
Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo)
basically the same as an i7 3770k for about $40 less
otherwise, get the 2011 socket i7. the xeons for that socket are alot more expensive
post #72 of 145
You're pretty much saying exactly what I am saying...

the 3770 is a better value... and the 3930 is a better overall processor.
 
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post #73 of 145
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You're pretty much saying exactly what I am saying...
the 3770 is a better value... and the 3930 is a better overall processor.

Benchmarks show them Almost even .. And the 3930k losing in Video and gaming which is what the op wants.

Neither is better then the other.. One just cost alot less then the other.
    
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If I went with a ivy bridge processor I would probably stick to gaming and Ive watched many reviews and comparisons between the two and from my understanding the 3770k is not as good as the cheaper 3570k cpu.

I think you got it backwards buddy, the 3770K is a step up from the 3570K which adds Hyper-threading! Each core can use two threads, for cores give you eight threads. The 3570K does not have Hyper-threading, therefore is inferior.
post #75 of 145
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Benchmarks show them Almost even .. And the 3930k losing in Video and gaming which is what the op wants.
Neither is better then the other.. One just cost alot less then the other.

I suppose we can just agree to disagree...
 
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post #76 of 145
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You gotta be kidding...

Yeah, it is a joke.

Still though, the 3570K and 3930K are not comparable. The 3770K at least supports HT.

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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Benchmarks show them Almost even .. And the 3930k losing in Video and gaming which is what the op wants.
Neither is better then the other.. One just cost alot less then the other.

It's losing because single and few threaded apps will not stress every core anyways. Clock speed matters more. In highly parallel computing, the 3770K will lose to the 3930K. The 3930K also has more headroom in terms of available power. It would be possible to render a scene and compress a stack of files at the same time, where as the 3770K would be maxed out on the render. The 3770K (and 2700K/3570K) are great CPUs, but it is not what I would suggest for someone building an editing machine when their budget allows for something stronger.
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post #77 of 145
If you're encoding and stuffs 3930k, if you're a gamer and only do a bit of video editing 3570k/3770k. If you can afford it and do video editing the 3930k is the way to go though. It also clocks higher if you plan to OC. thumb.gif
 
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post #78 of 145
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Yeah, it is a joke.
Still though, the 3570K and 3930K are not comparable. The 3770K at least supports HT.
It's losing because single and few threaded apps will not stress every core anyways. Clock speed matters more. In highly parallel computing, the 3770K will lose to the 3930K. The 3930K also has more headroom in terms of available power. It would be possible to render a scene and compress a stack of files at the same time, where as the 3770K would be maxed out on the render. The 3770K (and 2700K/3570K) are great CPUs, but it is not what I would suggest for someone building an editing machine when their budget allows for something stronger.

Hes a Gamer doing some Video Editing

3770k is enough to do that with the best of them.

And this is Huge as far as for what he is getting for the $$$
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Check this out...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492&name=Processors-Desktops 569$
3770k + G1 Sniper 3 *Combo deal*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1066847 551$ You can get a 3770k and a highend mother board for less then the cost of just the 3930k lol
Then to get the x79 = to the G1 Sniper 3..
Add 320$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128533&name=Intel-Motherboards

The 3930 is going to cost roughly 400$ more for little to no gains.

400$ can buy a Gtx 680.
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post #79 of 145
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Hes a Gamer doing some Video Editing
3770k is enough to do that with the best of them.
And this is Huge as far as for what he is getting for the $$$
The 3930 is going to cost roughly 400$ more for little to no gains.
400$ can buy a Gtx 680.

Would you please stop using completely synthetic crap like pcmark for comparing real world performance of CPUs. Just because anand uses it doesn't mean it actually means something.

toms non synthetic part of the test suite (Click to show)

















^Not cherrypicked either, just pages 15 through 19 from their suite. The ones with software that actually matters.

Now that we're using at least mostly non synthetic stuff can you please tell me how many of the benches the 3770K won? And when it won those, how many of them were with a really small difference. After that you realize that the 3930K/3960X were clocked 200-300mhz lower than the 3770K but can be OCd about as well on average so you get bigger differences in favor of SB-E after overclocking.

IB simply can't touch SB-E with real world encoding, content creation etc. To claim that the 3770K beats or matches a 3930K in most of the benchmarks is completely ridiculous.
 
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post #80 of 145
A 3770k is better value overall...Not such a big difference. And in single threaded stuff there's a clear advantage.
Also SB-E chips don't necesarily clock more than IB, I've seen lots of them stuck at 4.8ghz while on custom water, perhaps 5ghz. It's plenty fast for anyone though, don't get me wrong, but it's quite a bit more costly.
Big e-peen for a gamer that's all, draws more power, costs more...If he's totally serious about editing and multi-threaded stuffs then yeah, every second counts, if not MEH! wink.gif
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