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They're going to need a lot more than 5-10%. They're going to need at least 20-25% to remain competitive. Remember, Steamroller will be competing against Haswell, not IB.
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Originally Posted by Tsumi View Post

They're going to need a lot more than 5-10%. They're going to need at least 20-25% to remain competitive. Remember, Steamroller will be competing against Haswell, not IB.

A 15-20 % jump is feasible. Price it right and at least I would buy it.
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Or what if the article is right, that there will be no fx in 2013, what if they mean they will release steamroller before then. We already know that after steamroller that's basicaly it for desktop cpus. Apu's will become so powerful that using them in desktops would be common place. Performance apu, 16 core, 3.0 ghz, 32 mb cache, and a gpu that's as strong as a 7870. So what are they going to do, sit back and polish steamroller for another year when the only real changes being made are to the FPU and other adjustments. But then again if they do push steamroller back for a year, it would have to be insane. Otherwise they would get run over by intels tick tock strategy.

Piledriver was just released in CPU form a few weeks ago. Steamroller is a major revamp and will take a considerable amount of time to finish.

There's no way a 3GHz 16-core APU with a 7870 on-die is feasible in the foreseeable future. Such a chip would require a >250W TDP on 28nm. Not to mention that 16 cores are worthless for most desktop users.
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If steamroller becomes a 5-10% increase in performance from piledriver then AMD have something against intel !

Steamroller will be around 30% faster than Piledriver according to AMD. Some sources with sketchy credibility claim 45%.

AMD needs something like 40-45% higher IPC to catch up with Sandy Bridge in terms of IPC. In terms of IPS Steamroller will probably be outperforming SB assuming it clocks similar to better than PD if these unidentified sources with AMD are legitimate.
Edited by Usario - 11/6/12 at 3:22pm
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In Layman's terms please? rolleyes.gif
It means that GCC will be optimized for Steamroller architecture. So any software that is compiled with GCC, can be recompiled with the latest version of GCC. Which will allow the software itself to reap full performance benefits on AMD's chip design.
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Keep on Truckin' AMD,I want to come back to you one day.....I miss you....you don't call anymore....its like you don't even care about me...
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Keep on Truckin' AMD,I want to come back to you one day.....I miss you....you don't call anymore....its like you don't even care about me...

they really dont, dont be fooled biggrin.gif
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post #27 of 34
Quote:
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They're going to need a lot more than 5-10%. They're going to need at least 20-25% to remain competitive. Remember, Steamroller will be competing against Haswell, not IB.

Isn't Haswell only supposed to be 1% faster than IB?
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Isn't Haswell only supposed to be 1% faster than IB?
No die shrink so I wouldn't expect much, seems like Intel is focused more on power consumption this time around.
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Hope AMD release the steamroller at the start of the year with a big improvement !
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Is this the compiler for making use of all the cores, using something like OpenCL or GL?
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