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Don't care. Not like I do anything worth listening to to begin with. 

Not the point at all. If you dont care about your privacy thats just great. But most people care about our privacy
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Once your information leaves your residence you have no reasonable right to privacy.

Rubbish. This is precisely why every website and service that collects data has a privacy policy - people expect that their privacy will be protected to some degree at all times. Granted, most people don't notice (or care about) reductions in privacy online as much as they do offline. After all, they are quite happy to market their drunken escapades on Facebook.
    
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But it DOESN'T go through their infrastructure. I have FiOS, that goes through Verizon, then it goes through a whole bunch of other "wires" ... Sprint, AT&T, etc.
Just because it uses their PROGRAM doesn't mean they can listen to my calls. No more so than Cisco, Vonage, or Avaya has the right to listen to my calls just because you use a VOIP system (or Verizon or Comcast for that matter).
My ISP can WATCH my traffic, but they can't sit there and decode every single data packet and copy the data going in and out of it. They can monitor the FLOW of data traffic, not decrypt the actual data itself.
Not without a warrant.
Exactly, they can't decode it, but only if you encrypt it. If you are using their services and sending unencrypted traffic through it they are free to do whatever with that they please, with or without a warrant.
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The Wiretap Act requires the police to get a wiretap order whenever they want to "intercept" an "oral communication," an "electronic communication," or a "wire communication." Interception of those communications is commonly called electronic surveillance.
Under the Wiretap Act, although a wiretap order is needed to intercept your email and other electronic communications, only your oral and wire communications — that is, voice communications — are covered by the statute's exclusionary rule. So, for example, if your phone calls are illegally intercepted, that evidence can't be introduced against you in a criminal trial, but the statute won't prevent the introduction of illegally intercepted emails and text messages.

Note: this only applies to police and government agencies. Organizations that aren't taking you to court have no reason to get a warrant:
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According to the Wiretap Act, it's a crime for anyone that is not a party to a communication — anyone that isn't one of the people talking, listening, writing, reading, or otherwise participating in the communication — to intercept the communication, unless at least one of the parties to the communication has previously consented to (agreed to) the interception.

This means they are free to do whatever they want if you select I AGREE to an EULA that states they may, for any reason, record/listen/store any kind of communication.

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Here is my Cox Subscriber Agreement:
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9. Monitoring and Removal of Content
Cox is under no obligation to monitor your postings. However, Cox reserves the right at all times and without notice to remove, restrict access to, or make unavailable, any content on its servers that it considers, in its sole discretion, obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, and to monitor, review, retain and/or disclose any content or other information in Cox's possession about or related to you, your use of the Services or otherwise as Cox deems necessary to satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process, or governmental request.

Edited by brfield - 10/20/12 at 10:54pm
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Wouldn't ts/vent/mumble be way more secure?

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Really do not care as I do not and never will have a use for it ever.
 
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Wouldn't ts/vent/mumble be way more secure?
Ventrillo would be the safest of those three, at least I think, because you can run a server on your PC and only allow people of your choosing.
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Ventrillo would be the safest of those three, at least I think, because you can run a server on your PC and only allow people of your choosing.


You can do that with all three.

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You can do that with all three.
It's been a while since I've used any of them. Whoops, lol
post #79 of 82
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Originally Posted by Scars Unseen View Post

Not if it's illegal for them to do so. Sprint can't listen into your phone calls, and Google can't read you e-mail because they are protected(in the US) by the 4th amendment. I don't know if a ruling has been made on VoIP, but I'm fairly confident that it too would be covered for reasons similar to the inclusion of e-mail.

As much as I agree with your sentiments, you are wrong, Wrong, WRONG when it comes to your understanding of the 4th amendment. The 4th amendment, and the rest of the constitution unless explicitly stated, is/are only applicable to states and the federal government. Twitter, et al. are in no way obligated to to let their users say whatever they wish. It would be nice if they did, or maybe if they were obligated to, but they don't and they aren't.
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As much as I agree with your sentiments, you are wrong, Wrong, WRONG when it comes to your understanding of the 4th amendment. The 4th amendment, and the rest of the constitution unless explicitly stated, is/are only applicable to states and the federal government. Twitter, et al. are in no way obligated to to let their users say whatever they wish. It would be nice if they did, or maybe if they were obligated to, but they don't and they aren't.

Thank you for pointing this out. There is a strange indistinction between large corporations and the government these days. Probably because of all the successfully lobbied politicians out there.
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