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Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the forums and was recommended to come here and post my rig. I used to be into PC gaming (counter-strike betas, warcraft 2, etc) and built a pc a long time ago when the AMD Athlon Tbird 1.4ghz was the top of the line! I still remember holding that box in my hand. Fast forward some 10(?) years later and I'm ready to spend less time with the Xbox and get back into PC gaming. I've had a few friends give me some recommendations but I'd appreciate people evaluating and providing feedback on my current rig. It's currently on the high end of my price range ($2K) because my friend seems to only like "ferrari" class products so if I'm overpaying on anything, please let me know.

My requirements are that it can run and will be able to run the latest games. I'll also use it for casual internetting, movies, etc. Nothing load intensive. I'm also trying to minimize the sound emitted from the fans as my fiance is sensitive to sound and the computer will be in our bedroom.

Case: Silverstone Tek Extended ATX/ATX/SSI-CEB Full Tower Case with 90-Degree Motherboard Mounting with Window Side Panel Computer Case RV03B-W - $144

PSU: KingWin Stryker 500-Watt ATX 500 Fanless Power Supply STR-500 - $160

Motherboard, this is the recommendation but I'm skeptical...do I need thunderbolt now?
Gigabyte Intel Z77 Dual Thunderbolt ATX Motherboard - $205

CPU: ntel Core i7-3770K Quad-Core Processor 3.5 GHz 8 MB Cache LGA 1155 - $320

CPU Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan - $30

CPU Fan, plan is to replace fan on heatsink with this for quieter fan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00632FL8A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=A21UKLVMUAO7H3 - $21

GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 670-DC2-2GD5 VGA - 2GB GDDR5 - GPU Tweak - $420

SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive - $190

HD: Western Digital 2 TB WD Green SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - $110

RAM: Komputerbay 32GB (4x 8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz DIMM with Blue Low Profile Heatspreaders 240-Pin Dual / Quad Channel RAM Desktop Memory KIT 10-10-10-27 XMP ready - $130

Wifi card, cable modem in other room: TP-Link 450Mbps Dual Band Wireless N PCI-E Adapter (TL-WDN4800)
- $41

Bluray drive: LG Internal 14x Blu-Ray Burner - $74

Monitor, probably buy a second after a few more paychecks: Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23" IPS LED LCD Monitor - $220

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit - $99

Total: $2157 before tax

I appreciate anyone's input!
Edited by stasiszv - 10/17/12 at 7:54pm
post #2 of 11
Unless you are really in love with the look of that case, you should probably avoid it. it is a very unusual case that will just complicate your whole build.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146091&name=Computer-Cases

With the power supply you should avoid the fanless ones. They are over priced, and you should probably get a higher wattage PSU so that you have plenty of upgrade room in the future.

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139029&name=Power-Supplies (110 bucks after sale and rebate thumb.gif)

The motherboard you chose is good, but you are paying more for thunderbolt which is something that nobody will be using for a good couple of years. Spend the money on a good overclocking motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130660&name=Intel-Motherboards (this is an awesome motherboard, and it even comes with 8gb of free patriot memory as a sale offer thumb.gif.

For the CPU, if you just want to game, and you are going to do intense video editing any time soon, get the i5 3570K. The only difference between the two is hyper threading, and you aren't going to use it.

CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B007SZ0E1K

For the video card, you should probably look at getting a AMD 7970. It is faster, and will overclock extremely well. For the same price point, you can essentially beat a GTX 680.

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102982&name=Desktop-Graphics-Cards

Love your choice for SSD thumb.gif

Change your HDD to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834&name=Internal-Hard-Drives it is a much faster drive, and you are going to use the same amount of power for the same price of drive.

For the ram, use the stuff that comes with the motherboard. So long as gaming is the most intensive thing your computer is doing, you will never need more than 8GB of ram. Plus, that ram that you chose is such junk that I am surprised it even exists. If I am not mistaken, it is essentially ram that manufactures threw away, and these people branded it for resale. The ram that comes with the motherboard is more than enough, and it is free.

As for the wireless add on, go with this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122490&name=Wireless-Adapters . It is wireless AC, and without going into too many details, I am just going to say it is brand freaking new and it is the future of wireless. So in theory your wireless connectivity will be future proof.

Bluray drive is a bluray drive is a bluray drive. Choose one that will match your case and be happy.

Here is a cheaper and better version of that screen. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288&name=LCD-Monitors . Maybe it will help you afford 3 wink.gif
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Very boss looking setup there, I built one almost just like it last month and it's a beast. Do everything Tjj226 said though, I have most of the parts you listed paired with some he sugested and it worked out really well.
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You can save $100 by getting a 3570K, as mentioned before. You can also easily get by with a 650W power supply, something like the Corsair HX650 or the Rosewill Capstone would be fine - I'd go with a modular since it makes cable management so much easier:
Corsair HX650 Modular
Rosewill Capstone 650W Modular 10% off and a $25 rebate

I'd get a much cheaper motherboard, something along the lines of the Asus P8Z77-V or P8Z77-V LK, but there are plenty of options around $130. They will all perform pretty much the same.
Asus P8Z77-V 10% off right now
Asus P8Z77-V LK comes with 8GB free memory

You don't really need more than 8GB or RAM, or 16GB if you want to get crazy, so just pick up whatever DDR3-1600 is a good price (and without tall heatspreaders). I like G.Skill, but most any memory is going to work out okay.
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I would agree with what the above poster suggested. Personally, I would also get an Antec Kuhler 620 or something along those lines. You're already spending $51 on the heatsink and fan. Grab that baby for $10 more and get some terrific temps.
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core i5 3570k - 220
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B007SZ0E1K/

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME 4 - 135
www.amazon.com/LGA1155-CrossFireX-Motherboard-Z77-EXTREME4/dp/B007KTY4A6/

Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo - 30
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/

Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600 - 40
www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Profile-1600mhz-PC3-12800/dp/B0058J1Q7O/

GIGABYTE GTX 670 OC - 360 (10% off w/ promo code GIGAX0X2B, ends 10/18 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423

Samsung 830 256 GB SSD -185
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077CR66A/

WD Caviar Green 2 TB HDD - 110
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VFJ9MK/

ANTEC 302 case - 60
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three-Hundred-Two-Gaming/dp/B006TVQTHW/

Seasonic M12II 620 PSU - 90
http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-80Plus-M12II-620-BRONZE/dp/B003HE260I/

DELL Ultrasharp U2312HM IPS monitor - 220
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LN1JEC/

LG DVD burner - 74
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YWMCA8/

TP-Link wireless adapter - 41
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GMPZ0A/

TOTAL 1565

OP for the usage you are talking about a 3570k with 8 GB RAM and a GTX 670 is more than enough. I have picked a Seasonic M12II 620 PSU with 5 year warranty. Its safest to pick a PSU with a quality 120mm fan. ANTEC 302 case is very spacious . has a 120mm rear fan and a 140mm top fan. tool-less 5.25 inch bays. supports graphics cards upto 12.5 inches length.

The Gigabyte GTX 670 is a very good card. custom GTX 680 PCB design. high quality components and 5 + 1 power phases. excellent windforce 3x cooler. available with a 10% off promo only till Oct 18th. Grab one when the promo offer exists.

Don't spend money more than is necessary to get the performance you want.
Edited by raghu78 - 10/18/12 at 1:16am
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Tjj is right on the money here with the suggestions, I'll simply offer equally good alternatives and additional commentary.

CPU/CPU-cooling: I'm in agreement that the 3770K is a waste of funds for the build and would like to point out that this is one of those typical "mistakes" made by amateur builders who skip the research and make assumptions about performance based on product placement that was intended to get the general consumer to make those assumptions. The 3570K or 2500K if you intend to overclock, otherwise, a non-K Ivy i5 is the best choice.
Use this combo special to save $20 on a great liquid loop cooler for the CPU that will help cut down on noise: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1080040
This will tie into a later suggestion very nicely....

MOBO/OS/RAM: A motherboard is a place to stick stuff. The important thing is that it has the holes you will actually need to stick stuff into. Performance wise, there is very little impact from the bottom to the top of the line within a socket type here. The middle to higher range stuff just opens the doors to stable higher overclocks,
I suggest the following MOBO/OS/RAM combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1032600 (this comes with the same 2x4GB kit "free" as the MOBO linked to by Tjj above, but this approach cuts about $75 off of your bottom line for the build by taking a bite out of the cost of windows and selecting a more value oriented motherboard that is perfectly capable of being the heart of a very powerful gaming machine.

GPU: Here's a triple fan (which should equate to quiet running as they can run slower) GTX670 for $360: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423
Use promo code [GIGAX0X2B].

Case: Here's one of the quietest cases money can buy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139012
$20 off promo code [EMCJNJD28] makes this a steal at $130. The really neat part here, is that the top fan mount here is designed specifically to match up to the CPU radiator from the combo special I linked to above. This case and that CPU cooler are sort of a match designed to go together smoothly. This case is full of dampening material and is designed all around to be quiet.

PSU/Optical: I can't in good faith suggest a anything below a silver rated unit these days, there are too many high efficiency units to choose from at great prices not to take advantage. Don't worry about this unit having a fan, this will be the quietest fan in the whole machine most of the time since it will rarely ever run at any noticeable speeds. The best way to get a "silent" but powerful PSU, is to get a more efficient PSU, the more efficient it is, the less waste heat it has to remove. Combine that premise with an oversize low RPM fan and you have a recipe for near-silent operation.
This combo helps you save a few bucks on your optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1095220
The 750W Fortress is the perfect size (with ample overhead) for an upper tier Nvidia card build that might go SLI. For a heavily OCed HD7970 build, an 850W might be more comfortable to work in but is probably unnecessary. This PSU has a 7 year warranty and the highest efficiency rating available. The internals are made by ATNG and are very high end (very comparable to the best offerings from Corsair/Seasonic/Antec). This unit will, for an equal load, have about half as much heat to dissipate as the unit that was suggested above by Tjj, so this unit should run quieter at the same loads. The Optical drive included in the combo reads all optical formats up to blue-ray, but only writes up through DVD, I wasn't sure if you really intended on needing a blue-ray burner or not. This saves you about $35 compared to the drive previously selected.

SSD: Cheaper on newegg right now, just $170: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164

Add the HD, wireless card, and monitor you have selected to the above, and that's $1740 shipped. Over $400 saved.

Eric
Edited by mdocod - 10/17/12 at 9:51pm
     
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Thanks to everyone for the recommendations!

@mdocod, the liquid cooling seems like it could be a real pain/complicated for a beginner such as me. Thoughts?
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Thanks to everyone for the recommendations!
@mdocod, the liquid cooling seems like it could be a real pain/complicated for a beginner such as me. Thoughts?

Heck no! It is an all in one liquid cooler. All that means is that you install it a LITTLE bit differently than a normal air cooler.

Now I personally hate the H100 with a burning passion. It is too expensive, too loud, and the temp difference between it and a high end air cooler is either slightly better or the air cooler will actually beat it depending on the circumstances.

Since this is only an i5 CPU and overclocking is not going to be needed for a good couple of years, I would go with a NZXT 140mm havik. It looks nice, matches the color scheme of my purposed build, and performs extremely well.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116014&name=Power-Supplies save some money and grab this power supply.
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Ryzen 5 1600 MSI B350 Bazooka ASUS Turbo GTX 1060  T-Force DDR4 3000 16gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 250gb Intel 320 160gb SilverStone Heligon HE01 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Achieva Shimian  Monoprice MX Black SeaSonic X-750 Corsair 350D 
Mouse
Logitech G403 
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