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I have about 500GB backed up to crashplan. Defintely a good thing sense the Data was from my laptop and HP decided to replace my hard drive during a repair.
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RAWR! A bump has appeared!
 
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Meh. I haven't ran a proper back up in while; not enough terabitage.

 
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RAWR! A bump has appeared!

Good man.
Keep the bamps coming.

Im actually to the point where I have more backup copies than active data.
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I seriously have no data that is important enough to backup. Lucky me I guess.
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Bump. I just destroyed the OS on my server and almost forgot I had a backup. It saved me big time. biggrin.gif
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I put my backup drive back in my rig a couple of days ago so everything that isn't on both my rig and laptop isn't backed up at all rolleyes.gif
     
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I'm constantly being amazed by the number of people who believe RAID is an adequate backup. Sean has pointed this out before but here it is again. RAID is NOT a backup. Period. All RAID does is speed up drives, provide redundancy that allows a machine to keep chugging along uninterrupted without data loss if a single drive should go belly up, or both, depending on the kind of RAID. Other than a business that can't tolerate an interruption in data accessibility, very few people need RAID. It's more of a convenience than a necessity. If just one or two HDDs in a RAID goes down (depending on the kind of RAID), data won't be lost. But if a PSU shorts out and fries all the HDDs in the RAID or if the box the RAID is in is destroyed by fire, flood, etc. or is stolen, your data is but a memory. A bare (and Imean really bare) minimum for a true backup is your data is stored in two separate, isolated places. The more redundancy and isolation, the better (up to a point).

I have three backup HDDs for every HDD I have in use. Right now, my desktop has a SSD boot drive and two 2TB data HDDs (I have room for four more data HDDs). My notebook has one HDD with separate system and data partitions. That means I have a total of 12 HDDs I use for backups right now. My desktop machine has a 2.5" and a 3.5" bay that I can hot swap internal HDDs into. I also have a cute little 2.5" USB dock to use with my notebook (I only use the notebook when travelling). Using internal HDDs instead of external ones is less expensive, they take up less storage space, and don't require external power supplies. I keep two of the three HDDs per HDD in use in an antistatic foam "egg crate" in a drawer away from my desktop computer (I also keep two of the backups for my notebook in the same drawer). The third HDD per HDD in use is kept in a safe deposit box at my credit union (that costs only $55/year). I also use Carbonite's basic cloud backup service for the desktop (I don't keep any critical data on the notebook that isn't also on the desktop except for photos I may take when on the road—I have separate backup provisions for that—so I don't need Carbonite for the notebook). That runs me only $59/year. It automatically encrypts and uploads all new and changed data shortly after it is generated. Carbonite also keeps deleted files for 30 days. I've found that is all the versioning I should ever need.

I do a back up on each of the local backup HDDs once a week unless I dump a lot of data at once onto my desktop machine. The offsite HDD gets swapped out no less than once a month. Since the offsite HDD can't be completely up to date, should I ever lose my machine and the local backups, I can use the offsite HDD to quickly restore most of my data, then get the rest from Carbonite. I could get all of it back from Carbonite but it would take several weeks to download. Still, it's handy to have that option available.

I image my system partitions using Macrium Reflect. The data drives I clone, again using Macrium Reflect (more reliable than a folder and file copy). I prefer cloning because it's easier to get at my data if a drive goes bye-bye. All I have to do is just plug in one of the local backups and use it until I can get a replacement for the permanently AWOL HDD (I live in a megalopolis and still can't always locally get the drives I use). Once the replacement HDD is in place, I can just clone the data back to the new drive.

When I'm on the road, I carry one of the backup HDDs for my notebook with me in a well padded transport case and use the little dock when backing up. Generally, the only data I add when on the road is photos I've taken. I download them from the camera card as soon as it is convenient, then upload a copy to my Amazon Cloud Drive (I already had it and it's free). I also copy them to an old 32GB camera card that I keep in my purse and to the backup HDD. That way, I have four copies scattered around so it's pretty much unlikely I'll ever lose them. Once the photos are transferred to my desktop after I get home and they have been backed up, I can delete the previous backups.

All that may sound expensive and a bit of a PITA to implement (heck, it is a PITA) but most of my data is irreplaceable or too expensive to replace and I have no desire to lose it. I have all my music on my computer now. I eventually will have all my books and movies on there as well (over half my books are already there), and all my personal documents are digitized. The only paper I keep is that which is required, such as receipts for items still under warranty that require an original receipt, and some legal documents (I keep copies anyway). I just can't afford to lose any of my data.

A word about cloud backups. Although I do use a free cloud storage site to backup photos when I'm on the road, I do not recommend them (for me, it's just a temporary backup and I have adequate redundancy should the cloud backup fail). Free cloud storage is notorious for disappearing with little or no warning. A good paid cloud service is much safer (although even they can fail, hence the need for redundancy). As mentioned, I use Carbonite because it's inexpensive, works automatically, is secure, provides unlimited storage, and has a good reputation for reliability. A lot of people do not understand what "the cloud" is. It's not some magical thing floating in the air. The cloud is just a remote server somewhere that is accessed via the internet. How reliable those servers are depends on the company that runs them. As mentioned, the freebies are not all that reliable. The basic paid ones generally keep your data on just one server so there is no geographic redundancy (geographic redundancy means multiple copies of your data is kept on separate servers in widely separated locations across the country). The more expensive business plans usually will have geographic redundancy and have faster connection speeds. They can be reliable enough that some companies will use them as their sole data storage (although the danger with that is, if communication lines go down, the data will be inaccessible for the duration of the outage). As long as one has adequate local backups with one being offsite (such as at a local bank, a storage locker, or even a friend who lives across town), a basic paid cloud service will be adequate. Never depend on any cloud service, especially the freebies, for your sole storage of data (the exception being some expensive business plans).
     
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For an average person who needs tons of storage and can't afford to build another machine to mirror a huge volume, RAID is good enough as a backup. Lose a disk, replace it and it rebuilds. Separate backups are for manic people who absolutely can't deal with having to re-download or re-rip something, or for businesses who absolutely can't lose work. I'm sick of seeing these elitist nerdy rants about how RAID isn't a backup. Go give businesses that advice and keep it off of enthusiast sites. Places like this are for normal people building better-than-average machines.
 
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For an average person who needs tons of storage and can't afford to build another machine to mirror a huge volume, RAID is good enough as a backup. Lose a disk, replace it and it rebuilds. Separate backups are for manic people who absolutely can't deal with having to re-download or re-rip something, or for businesses who absolutely can't lose work. I'm sick of seeing these elitist nerdy rants about how RAID isn't a backup. Go give businesses that advice and keep it off of enthusiast sites. Places like this are for normal people building better-than-average machines.

And what happens if your PSU shorts out and fries all the HDDs in your RAID? Or you get a virus that wipes out all your data? Or your house burns down, destroying your machine AND all the stuff you were going to re-rip (how do re-rip photos that were originally digital, btw, or re-download something that is no longer available?)? Or a thief steals everything? A lot of good RAID will have done you. If you don't consider your data valuable enough to properly back it up, more power to you. But I still maintain that RAID is NOT a backup!
     
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