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post #1 of 12
10/18/12 at 1:44am
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Friend asked me for help on building him a rig for a budget of 700$ Below is the parts I chose. All new, from newegg and various other vendors. Thoughts on this?

Western Digital Blue Caviar 1TB
G skill 16GB 1600 MHZ Ram
Coolermaster Hyper 212 HSF
Coolermaster HAF 922 USB 3.0 Advanced Chasis
Intel i5 3570k Ivy Bridge CPU
Artic Thermal Silver 5 Compound
Evga GTX 550ti
Asrock Z77 mother board
Corsair HX 650 Gold W Semi Modular PSU
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R

Total: 726.99$
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10/18/12 at 1:54am
Ok,

Don't go with corsair for the PSU, yes they are good but there are cheaper options for you. Check the builder series CX 650 I think it is and the antec models, Don't go with modular, again out of your budget.

Get a cheaper case.

Depending on which ASRrock motherboard you go, I'd cheap out on that as well and go with the ASUS P9z77-LX, it's cheap and cheerful but it'll give you more money to the GPU, which sucks btw.

Ditch 16gb of memory, go with 8, he won't ever use 16gb

Get a 500Gb WD black over the 1tb blue, he needs the performance on a system drive.

Throw in a GTX660ti or a 6870 or something as a GPU, 2 550ti's don't match up to a single 560Ti

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post #3 of 12
10/18/12 at 2:35am
Try to sneak in a HD7850 and a 64GB SSD by going with a cheaper case, 8GB RAM, PSU and maybe even the thermal paste. You should be fine with the stock paste.
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10/18/12 at 2:36am
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Try to sneak in a HD7850 and a 64GB SSD by going with a cheaper case, 8GB RAM, PSU and maybe even the thermal paste. You should be fine with the stock paste.

Don't bother with the SSD, it's an un-needed expense which will ruin your budget.
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post #5 of 12
10/18/12 at 2:42am
I disagree. I would drop the CPU to old 2500k and board to a Z68 to get an SSD in there. At work I have a pretty highend PC with an i7 2600 and it is very sluggish in doing general work. I'm sure it doesn't affect the big work.
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10/18/12 at 2:49am
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I disagree. I would drop the CPU to old 2500k and board to a Z68 to get an SSD in there. At work I have a pretty highend PC with an i7 2600 and it is very sluggish in doing general work. I'm sure it doesn't affect the big work.

An SSD will only effect loading times and will have little to no impact when gaming. Since you have an i7 at work i'm assuming you do rendering or something that uses massive amounts of CPU power, also you'll probably have something that will do a shed load of I/O's on your drives.

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10/18/12 at 3:08am
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An SSD will only effect loading times and will have little to no impact when gaming.
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700$ budget build, best all around performance.

An SSD IS one of the biggest performance increases in general computing (ie: desktop browsing and so forth) one can make. In the last 20 years of computing memory, the jump to accellerated 3D graphics from 2D only (eg: the original 3DFX Voodoo/S3 Virge/Rendition Verite cards), the jump to an SSD from a HDD, and the jump to a 27" 1440p IPS are the 3 biggest "leaps" in computer hardware usage that I appreciate almost daily.

I absolutely and unequivocally 2nd trying to squeeze in an SSD where possible, and dropping to more budget friendly components across the board to do so.

OP - Shoot for an i5 2500k Z68 build with an AMD 7850 and a decent, budget 500watt PSU. Get a smaller budget case, a 500gb HDD, 8gb RAM, ditch the thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5 is outdated and superseded by other brands with much better products anyway). This is if the budget truly is $700. If it can be stretched, or there are opportunities for upgrades/additions in the near future, then the tactic changes, but for the best, all-round, one-off performance now at that budget, then this is what you should be doing.
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10/18/12 at 3:12am
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An SSD IS one of the biggest performance increases in general computing (ie: desktop browsing and so forth) one can make. In the last 20 years of computing memory, the jump to accellerated 3D graphics from 2D only (eg: the original 3DFX Voodoo/S3 Virge/Rendition Verite cards), the jump to an SSD from a HDD, and the jump to a 27" 1440p IPS are the 3 biggest "leaps" in computer hardware usage that I appreciate almost daily.
I absolutely and unequivocally 2nd trying to squeeze in an SSD where possible, and dropping to more budget friendly components across the board to do so.
OP - Shoot for an i5 2500k Z68 build with an AMD 7850 and a decent, budget 500watt PSU. Get a smaller budget case, a 500gb HDD, 8gb RAM, ditch the thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5 is outdated and superseded by other brands with much better products anyway). This is if the budget truly is $700. If it can be stretched, or there are opportunities for upgrades/additions in the near future, then the tactic changes, but for the best, all-round, one-off performance now at that budget, then this is what you should be doing.

Right, you two clearly don't understand what i'm saying here, getting an SSD will do NOTHING FOR HIS FPS!!!!!!

It will improve loading times, that's it, it won't improve the number of FPS (That's frames per second just do you know) that he gets in games, an as he's playing games, that's the important thing here.

An SSD does NOT make a machine brilliant. An SSD is, which ever way you cut it, a nice thing to have. Nothing more, nothing less.
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10/18/12 at 3:13am
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An SSD will only effect loading times and will have little to no impact when gaming. Since you have an i7 at work i'm assuming you do rendering or something that uses massive amounts of CPU power, also you'll probably have something that will do a shed load of I/O's on your drives.
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he did say best OVERALL performance. not gaming performance.
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Right, you two clearly don't understand what i'm saying here, getting an SSD will do NOTHING FOR HIS FPS!!!!!!
It will improve loading times, that's it, it won't improve the number of FPS (That's frames per second just do you know) that he gets in games, an as he's playing games, that's the important thing here.
An SSD does NOT make a machine brilliant. An SSD is, which ever way you cut it, a nice thing to have. Nothing more, nothing less.
guess you need to put one in your rig first and then try to go back to a PC that doesn't have one - use it for couple of hours. the practical performance gains you see are hardly understood by reading a review.
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10/18/12 at 3:21am
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Right, you two clearly don't understand what i'm saying here, getting an SSD will do NOTHING FOR HIS FPS!!!!!!
It will improve loading times, that's it, it won't improve the number of FPS (That's frames per second just do you know) that he gets in games, an as he's playing games, that's the important thing here.
An SSD does NOT make a machine brilliant. An SSD is, which ever way you cut it, a nice thing to have. Nothing more, nothing less.

lol ... no, clearly it is you who does not understand what I am saying. furthermore, you clearly don't understand what the OP is saying either:
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It will improve loading times, that's it, it won't improve the number of FPS (That's frames per second just do you know) that he gets in games, an as he's playing games, that's the important thing here.

*Edit* - actually, the OP NEVER mentions gaming, once, as a desire for this build. rolleyes.gif

I juxtaposed your comment highlighting your insistence on *Gaming FPS* with the title of this thread *Best ALL AROUND performance" before responding to make the point that gaming FPS =/= all around performance. If the OP was interested in gaming FPS above all around performance they would have said so. But the OP said the complete opposite.

But an SSD affects the speed of the operating system ON WHICH all other computer usage will be based and MUST pass through ie: it affects daily usage regardless, and over time is appreciated infinitely for someone concerned with ALL AROUND PERFORMANCE and not strictly gaming FPS.

Cool cool?
Edited by willibj - 10/18/12 at 3:25am
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