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That was with a proprietary video driver installed?

With whatever comes as default frown.gif
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MATE been updated for it yet?
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This looks extremely appealing to me after watching the top 10 video.
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post #84 of 95
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With whatever comes as default frown.gif
That's the problem right there.
You need to install the proprietary drivers.
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I'm still sad they don't offer a different GUI upon installation. I can't stand the unity desktop. it reminds me too much of mobile operating systems.

Same, but there's the KDE, xfce, etc versions to get as well. wink.gif
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"Avoid the pain
of Windows 8."

A pointless slogan if there ever was one.

I don't think people complaining about UI changes in Windows 8 are going to find Unity and Dash that much more appealing.
Also, people who have issues with cloud integration in W8 aren't likely to take up an operating system that's focused even more on cloud integration.

To be fair on the cloud part, I'd trust Canonical a hell of a lot more than Microsoft. (Not that I really trust either)
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I don't mind the GUI too much. The only thing I hate about it is how the menu is always moved up into the top bar. So when I compile multi-platform software, I have to add an extra check if the OS is using Unity to avoid odd sized forms. Since most other distros use Gnome3 and have the menu bar in the application itself (Canonical is trying to be like Apple).

That's because everyone was installing the GlobalMenu plugin with Gnome2 and requesting for an actual one at the time. So Caonical made their own version, lol.

But I agree, Gnome 2 was my favorite. Ever since it was deprecated in Arch I started using DWM and honestly can't go back to floating window managers, they just annoy me so much and feel weird to use.

I've been going between Openbox and MATE on my Arch laptop.
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elaborate please. I remember you recommending arch to me before, if it's debian (ubuntu is debian right?) based and I don't have to learn a bunch of new CLI commands I might want to play with it.
I'm assuming it's functional?

Arch is Arch, it's not based on another distro. The structure/philosophy is loosely related to BSD, without being a copy more so like Gentoo is ( kinda ).

CLI is used a bit more in Arch but it's a lot easier than most think tongue.gif Aside from the basic mv/cp/mkdir commands you have the package manager Pacman, which is so simple an idiot can use it. But it is more centered around the power user, so CLI is needed. Easy enough to learn the basics within a day or so of messing about. There are a few that the wiki or guides will tell you, but most aren't ever needed except during installation, or specific tasks ( not every day tasks ). And once you get the system the way you like it, setup with GUI and all, you rarely have to touch the command line if you don't want to, aside from updating which is a simple " pacman -Syu ", and some yes/no options and done. All pretty much outlined in the guide I made a while back tongue.gif

And Arch's wiki is pretty much unbeatable as an information center. So much so a lot of Ubuntu's and other wiki's have a lot of information pretty much copy/pasted from it ( with slight changes when needed ).

Yep, Arch has the best documentation of any Linux distro, period.
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I'm on 8 and ubuntu has only given me a headache over the years. Games run smoother too, overall exerpeince is faster than 7.

I've never noticed that on my tests with 8?

I did notice it going from XP to Vista though, I had lower FPS but games were a hell of a lot less choppy on Vista.
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I love Unity. Much much quicker and intuitive to use than Metro, Xfce, even the windows 7 start menu.

People hate it because it's the cool thing to pretend you dislike. Linux hipsters, like hipster squared.

Metro on the other hand, soo many mouse clicks.

That argument is crap with Metro and it's crap with Unity, you do realize that GUIs are completely subjective things and what works for me won't work for you which won't work for Shrak? And before you ask, no, I hate tight jeans with a passion.

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That argument is crap with Metro and it's crap with Unity, you do realize that GUIs are completely subjective things and what works for me won't work for you which won't work for Shrak? And before you ask, no, I hate tight jeans with a passion.
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Peoples opinions and preferences on levels of usability are subjective.

Ease of use and general usability is pretty definitive.
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Ease of use and general usability is pretty definitive.

And whats easy for you to use may not be easy for someone else to use. And what may be usable for you, may not be usable for anyone else. I can fly through most of my tasks never taking my hands off the keyboard ( what my wm of choice is built for ) and do so faster than it takes for anyone that needs to touch a mouse. Simply put, moving your hand from the keyboard, to the mouse, back to the keyboard, back to the mouse again is always going to be slower for the majority of things. But, at the same time, I doubt you'd be able to manage CLI + Multiplextors like I do at the speed I do because it's not what you use, therefor general usability and ease of use would be non existant for you with my choices.

It will almost always be down to personal preference for the majority of things. Ease of use and general usability is still going to be subjective to the person using them.
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That argument is crap with Metro and it's crap with Unity, you do realize that GUIs are completely subjective things and what works for me won't work for you which won't work for Shrak? And before you ask, no, I hate tight jeans with a passion.
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Peoples opinions and preferences on levels of usability are subjective.

Ease of use and general usability is pretty definitive.

It's still subjective though, I function differently to you, I'll find some stuff easier or harder to use than you.
    
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I'd pick metro over unity.

I cannot stand unit.

KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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And whats easy for you to use may not be easy for someone else to use. And what may be usable for you, may not be usable for anyone else. I can fly through most of my tasks never taking my hands off the keyboard ( what my wm of choice is built for ) and do so faster than it takes for anyone that needs to touch a mouse. Simply put, moving your hand from the keyboard, to the mouse, back to the keyboard, back to the mouse again is always going to be slower for the majority of things. But, at the same time, I doubt you'd be able to manage CLI + Multiplextors like I do at the speed I do because it's not what you use, therefor general usability and ease of use would be non existant for you with my choices.
It will almost always be down to personal preference for the majority of things. Ease of use and general usability is still going to be subjective to the person using them.
It has to do with whether a task is difficult to comprehend, or difficult to complete. I am also not using user experience as a modifier. For a beginner distro designed for the masses, Unity is the best choice I feel.

Tasks in Ubuntu and unity are very simple to do. How a user comprehends and learns them can be seen as subjective, but it's laid out for them pretty good. Applications installed from the software centre automatically lock to the launcer, the dash is incredibly simple akin to iOS and Andriod and allows you to search through your apps, files and music right in front of your face.

The beauty of linux is that there are so many distros that you can choose from, as well as desktop environments.

My main comment was to the people still demonizing Unity from 11 (where it was merited because it was broken and didn't work), and the person that said Unity is like Metro.
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