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post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by MacroZerg View Post

Thanks for the tip. So its these? http://www.itaktech.com/abyssus-h5.html
And the surface we see on the pics is the surface that will touch the mousepad? And the idea is that since its "stripes" of teflon the low surface area will make for superb glide?

As far as I know, surface area only affects friction at the smaller level, when for example mouse feet dig into a soft mat.

Since larger mouse feet distribute weight more evenly, they have less pressure per square mm acting upon the surface, which counters the friction which comes from the extra material. The only thing left to consider is the weight acting upon the mouse, and how easily they dig in (and ofc the materials).

The best feet then, from what I know, have a large surface area, are completely smooth, and have tapered edges, which makes them almost impossible to dig into the mouse mat, and if they do, the edges of the feet don't catch on the edges of the imprint produced by the feet digging into the surface.

A checker plate pattern then would more likely cause more friction, because the surface is rougher, the weight is focussed on each checker plate, causing them to dig into the mat. It takes extra energy to compress the mat as you move the mouse sideways. On a hard mat, it should make very little difference.

So, from what I know, its not true, the only thing that might reduce friction that I can think of, is the checker pattern itself has tapered edges, so on very light moves of the mouse, you get the same benefit as having rounded edges of the mouse feet. But if edges aren't rounded or tapered, then they will ruin it when more force is applied.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by bst View Post

As far as I know, surface area only affects friction at the smaller level, when for example mouse feet dig into a soft mat.
Since larger mouse feet distribute weight more evenly, they have less pressure per square mm acting upon the surface, which counters the friction which comes from the extra material. The only thing left to consider is the weight acting upon the mouse, and how easily they dig in (and ofc the materials).
The best feet then, from what I know, have a large surface area, are completely smooth, and have tapered edges, which makes them almost impossible to dig into the mouse mat, and if they do, the edges of the feet don't catch on the edges of the imprint produced by the feet digging into the surface.
A checker plate pattern then would more likely cause more friction, because the surface is rougher, the weight is focussed on each checker plate, causing them to dig into the mat. It takes extra energy to compress the mat as you move the mouse sideways. On a hard mat, it should make very little difference.
So, from what I know, its not true, the only thing that might reduce friction that I can think of, is the checker pattern itself has tapered edges, so on very light moves of the mouse, you get the same benefit as having rounded edges of the mouse feet. But if edges aren't rounded or tapered, then they will ruin it when more force is applied.

Thanks a lot for sharing your insight. What you say makes perfect sense.
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by bst View Post

As far as I know, surface area only affects friction at the smaller level, when for example mouse feet dig into a soft mat.
Since larger mouse feet distribute weight more evenly, they have less pressure per square mm acting upon the surface, which counters the friction which comes from the extra material. The only thing left to consider is the weight acting upon the mouse, and how easily they dig in (and ofc the materials).
The best feet then, from what I know, have a large surface area, are completely smooth, and have tapered edges, which makes them almost impossible to dig into the mouse mat, and if they do, the edges of the feet don't catch on the edges of the imprint produced by the feet digging into the surface.
A checker plate pattern then would more likely cause more friction, because the surface is rougher, the weight is focussed on each checker plate, causing them to dig into the mat. It takes extra energy to compress the mat as you move the mouse sideways. On a hard mat, it should make very little difference.
So, from what I know, its not true, the only thing that might reduce friction that I can think of, is the checker pattern itself has tapered edges, so on very light moves of the mouse, you get the same benefit as having rounded edges of the mouse feet. But if edges aren't rounded or tapered, then they will ruin it when more force is applied.

Up until 2 weeks ago, I would've said the same thing as you.

But I now am the happy owner of these Hurricane feet.
I cannot explain rationally why they work. But they absolutely do work the way they are advertised. Its amazing.
post #24 of 27
The effect of hurricane feet on hard pads is completely different to soft pads.

BST's analysis makes sense in the context of using soft pads, but not (from experience) on hard ones.
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post #25 of 27
I also bought the hurricane feet but i i'm not imprssed, im using a hard pad btw, they're not gliding smoothly, i feel like they're scratching against the pad. I removed them (after 10 days of usage) and started using my older "standard" feet made of PTFE (also custom), so much smoother...

In terms of speed... i don't think they're any faster, maybe slower even.
Edited by helioNz4R - 12/28/12 at 6:30pm
post #26 of 27
Probably pad dependent too?

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Which pad do you have?
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post #27 of 27
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Originally Posted by hamzatm View Post

Probably pad dependent too?
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Which pad do you have?
I think i found a reason, i've been using them on top of the other custom feet which have sharpeish edges, i removed them and placed the hurricane feet on the top of the original ones, it's all good now, although i would not recommend them for cloth pads as they're digging into the surface too much (tested on goliathus control).

I'm using mm400 pad from Corsair.
Edited by helioNz4R - 12/31/12 at 5:55pm
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