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[Ars Technica] Apple removes Java from all OS X Web browsers

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Apple has further distanced itself from Oracle's Java software framework with a Mac update released on Wednesday that removes a Java plugin from all Mac-compatible Web browsers.

Users who install the update will find a browser placeholder when they encounter Web-based content that requires Java, according to Sophos security researcher Paul Ducklin. "If you want to run Java applets in your browser on Mac OS X, you need to install the official Oracle Java runtime on the system to do that," another blogger on ghacks.net wrote. "Yes, that runs them in parallel with Apple's version for Java. For users that need both, it means to take care of two versions of Java on the system from that moment on."
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Hm...makes me wonder what their next move would be.
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Interesting move.

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Force it into legacy software, and cast into an abandoned wasteland like flash.
 
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Lol, for some reason Minecraft came to mind when I saw this... Are they really going to try to get rid of java along with flash?... I know it is slower than other coding languages (due to its need of a run time, but it has excellent portability) but it is used in quite a few applications. I wonder what apple will do from here... For all we know, thye could just be letting Oracle release updates like they usually do on windows systems.
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I didn't even notice... Then again I have separate Java stuff installed for Netbeans.

Your not really managing two Java versions though. The JRE for OS X is bundled with the OS itself. You don't touch it, so your not really managing two JRE's, but rather your going from managing zero to one.

I think it's odd though that it's been remove unless it was for major security flaws. What else would be used in it's place for applets? I'm not very familiar with web languages.
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I think it's odd though that it's been remove unless it was for major security flaws. What else would be used in it's place for applets? I'm not very familiar with web languages.
The only thing I can think of that would be able to sort-of-replace Java is a mix of CSS and HTML5. Even then, neither is as powerful as Java is.
 
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Lol apples Thought process* We have security issues when people use Java apps in our web browser. People are creating virus exploits for our OS. Instead of fixing it... we can just remove it and save money so we can hit our trillion dollar mark! Problem works itself out.

People who are dumb and get viruses wont know how to install Java by themselves and will just deal with the fact that they cant go on those websites. People who do know how to install a program are people who wont get viruses. Makes it seem like problem is fixed, everyone wins! Hilarious
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Force it into legacy software, and cast into an abandoned wasteland like flash.

This is what worries me. What else will they do this with. And the scary thought is that even with their relatively small market share they have the power to force this to happen. It's a bit unnerving.
 
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Lol apples Thought process* We have security issues when people use Java apps in our web browser. People are creating virus exploits for our OS. Instead of fixing it... we can just remove it and save money so we can hit our trillion dollar mark! Problem works itself out.
People who are dumb and get viruses wont know how to install Java by themselves and will just deal with the fact that they cant go on those websites. People who do know how to install a program are people who wont get viruses. Makes it seem like problem is fixed, everyone wins! Hilarious

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