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Originally Posted by TheSocialHermit 
The actions that Twitter took are to follow the law in Germany, which I understand why they did it, but even if these people are spouting nothing but hateful and terrible things, they deserve just the same rights of free speech as the New Black Panther Party does and they are saying that white children need to be killed to get their message across. I don't like their ideals but I will not let people be censored for having views that are "distasteful" but don't think I would accept their actions of cruelty while idly sitting by. The murders and assaults should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law but the moment you begin censoring speech, the next subject that is deemed distasteful will be on the block and it could be your religion, political views, sexual preference or any number of things.
The actions that Twitter took are to follow the law in Germany, which I understand why they did it, but even if these people are spouting nothing but hateful and terrible things, they deserve just the same rights of free speech as the New Black Panther Party does and they are saying that white children need to be killed to get their message across. I don't like their ideals but I will not let people be censored for having views that are "distasteful" but don't think I would accept their actions of cruelty while idly sitting by. The murders and assaults should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law but the moment you begin censoring speech, the next subject that is deemed distasteful will be on the block and it could be your religion, political views, sexual preference or any number of things.
Having distasteful views is one thing, but when people in these groups start releasing thousands of videos of beheadings, murders, etc is when they take their views too far and should be removed from site. By saying they are neo-nazis, they are saying they agree with killing these people. Free speech requires that you are stating an opinion, as soon as you start threatening harm to people, it is no longer free speech.
By your logic, Neo-nazi should be allowed to come onto OCN and post their garbage in off topic threads with no consequences. No one is being arrested for stating their beliefs and that's all freedom of speech really protects against. It is up to twitter if they want that stuff on their site, and if I was in their shoes I wouldn't want it on my site.
It's the same reason why moderation exists on forums. Freedom of speech is abused by people who really don't understand what it is, you can state whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you can go into a church and scream "worship satan" and expect everyone to be fine with it. You would probably be removed from the building, and the same thing is happening here.
I could make a website right now, and I would get to choose what viewpoints are allowed and this would not violate freedom of speech at all. Extreme believers like this can host their own website if they really want to pull the "freedom of speech" card. No one's freedom of speech is being violated by twitter choosing which posts are allowed and which aren't. I generally disagree with any form of censorship when it comes to 99.9% of things, but I find this move perfectly acceptable.
Edited by Murlocke - 10/18/12 at 9:56pm
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