Originally Posted by Murlocke
Having distasteful views is one thing, but when people in these groups start releasing thousands of videos of beheadings, murders, etc is when they take their views too far and should be removed from site. By saying they are neo-nazis, they are saying they agree with killing these people. Free speech requires that you are stating an opinion, as soon as you start threatening harm to people, it is no longer free speech.
By your logic, Neo-nazi should be allowed to come onto OCN and post their garbage in off topic threads with no consequences. No one is being arrested for stating their beliefs and that's all freedom of speech really protects against. It is up to twitter if they want that stuff on their site, and if I was in their shoes I wouldn't want it on my site.
It's the same reason why moderation exists on forums. Freedom of speech is abused by people who really don't understand what it is, you can state whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you can go into a church and scream "worship satan" and expect everyone to be fine with it. You would probably be removed from the building, and the same thing is happening here.
I could make a website right now, and I would get to choose what viewpoints are allowed and this would not violate freedom of speech at all. Extreme believers like this can host their own website if they really want to pull the "freedom of speech" card. No one's freedom of speech is being violated by twitter choosing which posts are allowed and which aren't. I generally disagree with any form of censorship when it comes to 99.9% of things, but I find this move perfectly acceptable.
That is not my point in this. OCN and Twitter are private services where it is up to the discretion of the owns to choose how their service is used. As such you have to agree to the terms of service for those sites before posting things and if you don't agree then you can't use those services. I'm not going to slight Twitter in any way for their actions on this because as a private entity, they have the right to dictate how it is used. Does that mean I am fine with people posting videos of beheadings or murders under the guise of it being free speech? No, those are illegal and should be dealt with as such. On the matter of people saying they are Neo-Nazis, they could also be following the original message of the National Socialist German Workers Party and be anti-big business, anti-bourgeois and pro-big government. Does that mean that all people who are Neo-Nazi believers think that killing and violence is okay? No, there are people who just want to be separate from other races and I have no issue with them being separatists but I don't like the people who want to kill and promote violence.
This is starting to veer from the topic into a political discussion and I agreed to the TOS for OCN so let's agree to disagree on where we draw the line on this. Truce?