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Thank you for schooling me with your knowledge. I'm now debating between the HCP-1000, Seasonic X1250 or the Seasonic 1000w Platinum. Question, any thoughts on the Lepa G1600?

Good lad, I'll let the pro(s) answer this one (and how many pros do you know on this thread that actually design/build/test PSUs for a living?)
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I would grab a single 450 watts Platinium PSU for each GPU and one for the rest of the computer.
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I would grab a single 450 watts Platinium PSU for each GPU and one for the rest of the computer.
I'd much rather go for a single PSU. I'm sure one day when my OCD takes full control of me and I decide to build a ridiculous rig, I'll consider the multi PSU route.
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I sense you are a little defensive, I didn't mean to make feel some sort of way.
Your opinion is that the HCP 1000 platinum would be the best buy for him? What I don't understand is how you can rule out every other power supply and tell me for a fact that it is indeed the best?
You mention numbers, functions, measurable electrical phenomena and such, What numbers? Failure Rate? Customer Satisfaction? Returns? Sales?
I'm not trying to say its a bad power supply, but I know that you couldn't have the information to tell me with 100% certainty that with out a doubt the HCP 1000 Platinum would be the "Best" PSU one can by under the OPs circumstance.
It's still just your opinion on what is the best.
I'm glad you are here to help educate people and guide them in a right choice. I find it funny you said "I'm not your shepherd" I maybe taking it a little out of context, but if you are not here to educate and guide people on PSUs then why did you take the job of editor?
I'm no the lest bit offended by your opinions, and I respect them. I just feel that you should be a little more tolerant, and conduct your self in a more civil manner if you want to produce more constructive post.
To help Make you less baffled. The 1st PSUs I bought was Antec, bought for same reasons you did. looks great on paper, but I also live by the Ideology, by burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me.
I wouldn't recommend an Antec on that principle, but I also wouldn't be so blunt to say Antec makes crap PSU, be sides the coil whine they are still running. I'm sure other people, like your self has had great experiences with them.
If I was to recommend a PSU I would say the Seasonic Platinum, Why? On paper its a great PSU, the warranty and customer support if by far better then my experience with Antec. This is why in my opinion would be the best PSU for your money. Not many companies will replace you 24 pin mobo cable for free just because your dog chewed part of it up.
I still feel you should check your sarcasm and your "blunt" manner at the door if you are going to be a community leader.

If you are able to read competent reviews that had done a technical analysis of the interior electronics and test it with proper equipments than you are able to make an objective statement on what is the best in terms of electrical performance, build quality, functionality, etc. Basically, the "best" PSU isn't because it's a particular brand, but rather the unit in question - be it an Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, etc. Like for example, the Antec HCP-1200 was the best 1200w unit on the market in terms of electrical performance and build quality, and had been match by the AX1200i for ~$150 more. However, the HCP-1200 is rather over-engineer to the point that it had shown to draw up to 2200wAC (or around ~1800wDC) of power, meaning it output power is actually even higher (I believe it could have been labeled as an 1500w~1600w, but most likely it's cooling design is a limiting factor here). There's also only 6 PCIe connectors on the AX1200i vs the eight on HCP 1200, meaning you would need to used a molex to PCIe connector if you were to 4-way CFX/SLI. There's no subjective statement there, right?

As for your coil whine complaints. Depending on the amount of currents is going through the wires on the coils (could happen a low loads or high loads) and how the wires is wound up, it may approach its resonance frequency which you may be able to hear a high-pitched sound. Coil whine actually exist on all power supplies - be it a Seasonic or an Antec. It just that bad luck that made it reach a certain audible frequency. In fact, there's a lot of complaints regarding coil whine on the Seasonic X and Corsair AX units, but that most likely has to do with the popularity of brand. BTW, may I asked which specific Antec unit you had problems with coil whine? Because Seasonic had made and still make some of their PSUs as well.

Edit: Btw, no one is alienating Seasonic or Corsair buyers; otherwise, the Seasonic X 1250 (XFX ProSeries 1250 and BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro P10 1200w) wouldn't have been suggested over the AX1200i. The problem isn't the fact that you buy a specific unit, but rather recommending something unconditionally because of the branding and not the unit itself.
Edited by qwan456 - 10/22/12 at 4:08pm
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I think this thread has served its purpose now. Mr Original has said like 100 times which PSU to buy - now we're just about to start WW3 tongue.gif
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It is not bold, it's blunt... and it's not a rant on Seasonic or Corsair products, it's a clean, simple take on a certain consumerist attitude that seems to perpetuate everywhere you look.... if you find yourself in that particular crowd, as a promoter and/or victim/beneficiary of that attitude and you feel offended by my take on things... you'll just have to deal with it, I'm not here to make you feel better about yourself, life, etc... I'm here to offer technical advice and to help you make an informed decision in regard to a PSU purchase, independent of where that leads you (Corsair/Seasonic or any other name), if you bought it because it's a nice product that makes a good purchase you have no reason to be offended, on the other hand, if you bough ti because it has w/e brand written on it, you're part of the intellectually incestuous sheep brigade, and I'm not your shepherd.
This can turn into a rather interesting philosophical discussion.... I have so much material in the few sentences above that I could probably write a small novel. Is this an empirical approach to a consumer electronics purchase?.. we'll bring David Hume or other British empiricists into the equation, maybe produce our own epistemology, we'll call it "Corsair, Seasonic and true knowledge in the consumer electronics market" with a subtitle like "brand mythology or how to make the correct purchasing decision based on what others experienced with products they don't understand and essentially know nothing about"..... and they we can argue with other schools of though... like the materialists, with their nonsensical scientific truths and so called facts, their idiotic Newtonian physics and hilarious laws or thermodynamics... electromagnetism.
What baffles me though is that you base your opinion on an admitted preconception... which, for all intents and purposes, nullifies it.
Buying a cheap consumer electronic product it's not an act of faith (in w/e brand), it's a question of numbers, functions, measurable electrical phenomena and such.
1'st, You should stop telling me what to do.
2'nd, Opinions, when debating hardware, are worthless when they're based on ignorant, subjective experience and preconceptions.
No, best is not subject to opinion, we're not talking about Cuban cigars or contemporary art... we're talking about electronics.


+1 For this Post

Original Sin helped me in my purchase of Lepa G 1600, and I'm more than happy to have this part. Its my best and most important hardware in my computer. thumb.gif .

I would listen to him before any other "experience".
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+1 For this Post
Original Sin helped me in my purchase of Lepa G 1600, and I'm more than happy to have this part. Its my best and most important hardware in my computer. thumb.gif .
I would listen to him before any other "experience".
Sorry, OT, but where is your MOTM winner badge Karlitos?
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I'm waiting for it . Suppose to arrive soon along the prize. wink.gif
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Thank you for schooling me with your knowledge. I'm now debating between the HCP-1000, Seasonic X1250 or the Seasonic 1000w Platinum. Question, any thoughts on the Lepa G1600?

The G 1600 is an excellent unit at an excellent price, it's also needlessly large for your intended build.
As for your other options, they're all excellent units.... personally I'd pick the HCP, as far as I'm concerned Delta is the best OEM currently present in the consumer market, and quality wise the unit is second to none (it's quite sexy actually), the same performance wise. That being said, the other two choice are up there as well, so pick what you like. smile.gif
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It is not bold, it's blunt... and it's not a rant on Seasonic or Corsair products, it's a clean, simple take on a certain consumerist attitude that seems to perpetuate everywhere you look.... if you find yourself in that particular crowd, as a promoter and/or victim/beneficiary of that attitude and you feel offended by my take on things... you'll just have to deal with it, I'm not here to make you feel better about yourself, life, etc... I'm here to offer technical advice and to help you make an informed decision in regard to a PSU purchase, independent of where that leads you (Corsair/Seasonic or any other name), if you bought it because it's a nice product that makes a good purchase you have no reason to be offended, on the other hand, if you bough ti because it has w/e brand written on it, you're part of the intellectually incestuous sheep brigade, and I'm not your shepherd.
This can turn into a rather interesting philosophical discussion.... I have so much material in the few sentences above that I could probably write a small novel. Is this an empirical approach to a consumer electronics purchase?.. we'll bring David Hume or other British empiricists into the equation, maybe produce our own epistemology, we'll call it "Corsair, Seasonic and true knowledge in the consumer electronics market" with a subtitle like "brand mythology or how to make the correct purchasing decision based on what others experienced with products they don't understand and essentially know nothing about"..... and they we can argue with other schools of though... like the materialists, with their nonsensical scientific truths and so called facts, their idiotic Newtonian physics and hilarious laws or thermodynamics... electromagnetism.
What baffles me though is that you base your opinion on an admitted preconception... which, for all intents and purposes, nullifies it.
Buying a cheap consumer electronic product it's not an act of faith (in w/e brand), it's a question of numbers, functions, measurable electrical phenomena and such.
1'st, You should stop telling me what to do.
2'nd, Opinions, when debating hardware, are worthless when they're based on ignorant, subjective experience and preconceptions.
No, best is not subject to opinion, we're not talking about Cuban cigars or contemporary art... we're talking about electronics.

Epic post.
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