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tl:dr I'm definitely no 775 expert ..I couldn't get much past 3.6 for daily either frown.gif
umm..keep the RAM below 1000-ish
I've read your board has bad vdroop..maybe look for a pencil mod smile.gif
try one of the 3 lowest RAM settings and see which one is most stable thumb.gif
1 of them is notsogood..I really should write stuff down frown.gif
warning: you may have to slop up timings.

Whoooaaaa.
My ram is DDR2 800, why would it ever get to 1000?
Pencil mod sounds way out of my league... frown.gif
Which 3 lowest?


ph34r-smiley.gif

Looks like I won't even need to worry about cooling at this rate, because I won't get past 2.7...

EDIT:
Got to 2.772 GHZ from Nvidia System tools. Still no better with BIOS. Even after overclocking with BIOS, when I open up CPUZ while doing Prime95, it still says 2.4ghz. WUT?? mad.gif
Edited by Darkwizzie - 10/20/12 at 6:15am
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More Vcore, try 1.375v.

And no need to be so careful, throw 1.5v at these chips and nothing will happen apart from heat, which this chip can take a decent amount of.

And find the VDrop and VDroop. VDrop is Vcore difference from Bios setting to Idle. VDroop is Vcore difference from Idle to Load. Use stock bios settings with a manual Vcore of 1.3125v and download CPUz and Prime95 to work out the Vdrop and VDroop values.

Setting 1.325v in Bios may actually mean 1.226v under load if you got bad Vdrop and Vdroop. I needed 1.40v under load to get anything stable at 3.2Ghz and 800Mhz ram.

You can use Load Line Calibration (if your board has the option) to reduce or negate Vdrop and Vdroop.
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Tried that just now. 1.375v, nothing. mad.gif I upped the voltage of ram two notches up. I find it hard to believe that the CPU suddenly needs much more voltage going 1195 to 1200 FSB, when I went straight to 2.772 GHZ by overclocking with Nvidia system tools, with no added voltage.


Very weird that I overclock to 1195 FSB in BIOS, and CPUZ says stock, even while CPU is under full load. What's going on? buttkick.gif

EDIT:
Upped the voltage to 1.4v, got to 2.799 Ghz. (On Nvidia System Tools). I thought BIOS OCing is supposed to be more stable...
EDIT:
At same voltage, moved ram speed down to 311 mhz in bios or 622 for 1:1 ratio at 2.799 Ghz, drove it up to 2.835 Ghz. with Nvidia System Tools... But not stable under Prime95


EDIT:
Running 2.799 Ghz. BIOS setting set up for 1.3975V. CPUID reports 1.3125v at full load. Mobo has no setting to stop Vdroop.
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Thats why you cant get anything stable at reasonable voltage from Bios, because your board has almost 0.1v Vdrop+Vdroop. Youll probably need to push 1.5v to get 3-3.2Ghz.

You might want to search up the pencil mod its a DIY Load line calibration, a little dodgy but works if done right.

Bios overclocking is not said to be more stable, just that the Bios can adjust some things behind your back which can help with the new settings, it also removes any doubt that voltages and settings are set in stone from outside of Windows.
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If I set it to 1.5v hypothetically, the CPU gets slammed with 1.5v but for OC I only get 1.4v, right? Reading around, 1.5v seems to be max.
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If I set it to 1.5v hypothetically, the CPU gets slammed with 1.5v but for OC I only get 1.4v, right? Reading around, 1.5v seems to be max.

Thats correct.
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I can't find a guide for pencil mod for my motherboard, are they all similar? Do they last forever?
Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Undelwalt (2017)
(29 items)
 
 
Celapaleis (2013)
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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