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post #161 of 286
You've been busy! What is this issue you are having with the crystal link? Do you have the right adapters for them? They are the ones with the double o-rings that you just push the crystal link into.
post #162 of 286
Looking awesome! That 670 is so small lol.
post #163 of 286
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

You've been busy! What is this issue you are having with the crystal link? Do you have the right adapters for them? They are the ones with the double o-rings that you just push the crystal link into.

Hi Chris, yes, I have a ton of those adapters and different types of fittings, the main issue I'm having is that the alignment has to be spot on perfect (I'm talking less than 0.5 mm of tolerance) for the tubes to want to fit together. I got lucky I didn't break anything as I was putting all my force into trying to get the fittings to seat (and I've got pretty buff biceps lol). I feel like I want to lube the tubes up with soap or some kind of lubricant, and then they would go, but the hard plastic against the O'ring is just really, really hard to fit unless the alignment is just dead center... Also, it seems like I can get every piece connected except for the motherboard chipset from the CPU. I've gone through so many different options in my head, but I was tired, so I may start looking at it again tonight. The other thing that isn't helping me is the CPU nozzles being stacked like that. I may switch them back so they are side by side again. Also, I switched up the orientation of the output on the HEATKILLER SLI fitting (used to be plugged on the bottom only, and I switched the plug around to the top right, so I could exit out the bottom if I wanted to try that option) Not sure if this is a good idea yet, I'll have to think about it a bit more. The SLI fitting seems to be open to both cards on the left side, then flows into the right side at the bottom, then open to both cards on the right side...


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Looking awesome! That 670 is so small lol.

Thanks! Yea, that's why I love them. My first benchmark was really successful, I'm hoping these have a lot of overclocking potential, would be nice.
post #164 of 286
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Well after about 200,000 different combinations, this one seems to physically work, though it looks ridiculous, or maybe awesome, not sure yet.

I took a picture of a couple different configs, but when my stress level peaked, I stopped photography. Bottom pics show current config. Honestly, I am just trying to get water in this thing, and then I'll probably have to re-do the loop later when I get more fittings. My lack of repertoire is forcing me to be much more creative than I care to be.

So, I will attempt to get this up and running, and just pray to some deity that there are no leaks, since I have no backup plan. If by some act of jehova you can visualize a better loop layout using these fittings or you know some trick that I haven't thought of, please do tell.

Without further adieu, here are the pics.

I am running actual tubing from the CPU out to the pumps. I know loop order doesn't matter much, but I did originally want to run to the CPU/GPU then the rest, but I just can't with my current fittings.

Installing these things is wayy harder than I imagined. I should make a video of how close you can be, yet still not able to make a connection. Wish there was some more 'give' in these connectors, the rigidity makes it so that you have to be spot on perfect.

Let me know what you think.








post #165 of 286
Well...I think it LOOKS awesome. I'll keep my fingers crossed for no leakage. Theseekeroffun had his attempt using crystal link blow up and leak everywhere. He concluded that you really have to be lined up perfectly straight....if you have pressure pulling it to one side....it will leak. I haven't used any yet...so I'll be looking to see how it goes for you. I have some ready...but not in use yet.
post #166 of 286
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Well...I think it LOOKS awesome. I'll keep my fingers crossed for no leakage. Theseekeroffun had his attempt using crystal link blow up and leak everywhere. He concluded that you really have to be lined up perfectly straight....if you have pressure pulling it to one side....it will leak. I haven't used any yet...so I'll be looking to see how it goes for you. I have some ready...but not in use yet.

smile.gif Thanks, I think it looks pretty cool too, not really how I want it, but I'm in no position to negotiate right now, haha.

Definitely not hard to get the tubes in straight, but when you look at actually screwing in the connections to the blocks, unless you screw both in at the same time and same rate, which is very difficult to do, it is very hard to align.

The thing I found, is that the bitspower fittings with the extra rotaries (so you can continue to rotate the fitting after it is screwed in) actually have a decent amount of give to them. So if you're going to use the crystal link stuff, make sure that you design your layout so that you can use the fittings that have some give, like the jeweled rotaries, bc it makes things much easier.

You can see the connection I made from the rad to the GPU, and from the GPU to the chipset block. These were actually really easy because there was a lot of rotation and give, so that the crystal tube could be worked into place.

Also, if you find yourself working with a short tube length, and it gets stuck in the o-ring, don't attempt to remove it with pliers of any sort (not even ones coated with 3 layers of heat shrink), it will break the tube. just soap it up if you need to and work on it.

Some decent twisting and force needs to be used to get the tubes into place, they don't just slide in, and everything is very rigid. It looks nice, but it's definitely not the easiest to work with.

I still like it, and don't regret it, but I do regret that I don't have more fittings to work with, as I know that's what's holding me back. And there's nothing more it's disappointing than knowing you need to wait on an order just to finish up something you already planned to get done.

One more caveat- There are 2 o-rings in the crystal link adapters. If you have the tube past the 2nd O-ring, there is really no way the tubes will be crooked. I made sure with all of these connections that the link is past the 2nd o-ring. It has caused me much pain, but I just would never sleep well, even with no leaks, if I knew otherwise.
Edited by ballnuts - 11/30/12 at 4:04pm
post #167 of 286
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Also wanted to mention that I am really liking the heatkiller blocks so far. I know I had some concerns a few posts back due to the weight and a couple marks on the finish, but my worries are now eased. The cards aren't stressed at all from the weight, and everything just lines up perfectly. The installation was really easy, everything worked as it was supposed to. The threads have been more robust than they probably should be, as they have held up to much abuse with me trying to get these crystal links to work. I have a suspicion that these are going to perform great, and I am very happy with them right now.

Another thing I will mention, I have spent about 45 bucks on custom ordering screws for the black ice radiators. I love everything about these radiators, but I can't figure out what they were thinking with the screws. On the 240 rad, I only got 8 screws (only enough for one side), and they are 30 MM from top to bottom. This means that I cannot mount a screw from the bottom of the case through the push fans, and into the rad. It's about 2mm too short. So I had to order some custom 35mm low profile bolt M4's from fastenal.
post #168 of 286
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The thing I found, is that the bitspower fittings with the extra rotaries (so you can continue to rotate the fitting after it is screwed in) actually have a decent amount of give to them. So if you're going to use the crystal link stuff, make sure that you design your layout so that you can use the fittings that have some give, like the jeweled rotaries, bc it makes things much easier.

Rotaries rock. thumb.gif


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Also wanted to mention that I am really liking the heatkiller blocks so far. I know I had some concerns a few posts back due to the weight and a couple marks on the finish, but my worries are now eased. The cards aren't stressed at all from the weight, and everything just lines up perfectly. The installation was really easy, everything worked as it was supposed to. The threads have been more robust than they probably should be, as they have held up to much abuse with me trying to get these crystal links to work. I have a suspicion that these are going to perform great, and I am very happy with them right now.

Did you get a chance to do any temp measurements while air cooled, so you'll know the impact of the blocks?


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Another thing I will mention, I have spent about 45 bucks on custom ordering screws for the black ice radiators. I love everything about these radiators, but I can't figure out what they were thinking with the screws. On the 240 rad, I only got 8 screws (only enough for one side), and they are 30 MM from top to bottom. This means that I cannot mount a screw from the bottom of the case through the push fans, and into the rad. It's about 2mm too short. So I had to order some custom 35mm low profile bolt M4's from fastenal.

Yep. I had that exact same experience. I found some reasonable priced ones on Amazon. Seems like manufacturer could include both....for a couple bucks more...and save us the hassle.
post #169 of 286
That's insane ! It reminds me of Charlie Chaplin's trip thru the machinery in Modern Times biggrin.gif
gaad ! how many hours do you have in on that fitting maze ? Looks awesome ! blocks and all .... and a first timer, quite the unbelievable aint it wink.gif

Yah, same experience on my SR-1 480 and the xspc rads - half the number for push/pull and on the SR-1, too short !
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thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif Sorry but not a fan.

You can't use a single 90 fitting from the GPU block to the mobo block?

You should just use tubing from the rad to the GPU. It looks wicked horrible.
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