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Flip the PSU - that top fan is only pulling air in the case and exhausting it out the PSU's rear. By flipping it, the 8 pin connector is now on top and further inside. Hmm, whats the floor like ? dusty ? animals ? That wood floor is what it sits on, right ?

Also - do you have plans to sleeve or to buy extensions ? The extensions are very good quality - bitfenix and Lutro0 and moddiy and modsmart come to mind - frozencpu will make you custom sleeves if you contact them, as will performance pcs - I think. But Lutro0 on OCN is a master of extension building. Some of the best looking PC builds on OCN use extensions !!


ADD:

I just took another look - for you to flip that PSU with the fan on the bottom, you'd have to open up one of the case's bottom fan covers, and then you'd want to get a filter ..... kinda large, but DEMCIFLEX makes custom sizes. That fan is bigger than a 120mm, iirc, and I believe that the fan mount cover is for 140mm .... unless you changed it out in your purchase.
Edited by socketus - 11/8/12 at 11:04am
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Flip the PSU - that top fan is only pulling air in the case and exhausting it out the PSU's rear. By flipping it, the 8 pin connector is now on top and further inside. Hmm, whats the floor like ? dusty ? animals ? That wood floor is what it sits on, right ?
Also - do you have plans to sleeve or to buy extensions ? The extensions are very good quality - bitfenix and Lutro0 and moddiy and modsmart come to mind - frozencpu will make you custom sleeves if you contact them, as will performance pcs - I think. But Lutro0 on OCN is a master of extension building. Some of the best looking PC builds on OCN use extensions !!
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I just took another look - for you to flip that PSU with the fan on the bottom, you'd have to open up one of the case's bottom fan covers, and then you'd want to get a filter ..... kinda large, but DEMCIFLEX makes custom sizes. That fan is bigger than a 120mm, iirc, and I believe that the fan mount cover is for 140mm .... unless you changed it out in your purchase.

+1 on the suggestions here. Not sure if the psu mount is hollow, though I think it is...Even if there is not, If there is separation between the psu fan and mount, then I should still be able to do it. I believe it is 140mm fan size like you say.

I think a flip would be a good idea for cooler air to reach the psu if it needs it. I've been rather surprised that the fan is already turning on. I think this 1250W psu is going to be less overkill than I thought, if not insufficient, not sure yet.


This may answer your question on sleeving...


I would honestly like to make my own cables for the ATX and CPU, maybe even PCI. I'm just not sure yet where to buy the cable or what I will need. The ATX plug has so many wires, I have no idea what I need.

Also,



It looks like the wiring order doesn't matter for my previous question. Not sure why they crossed the wires like that. Maybe just to be fancy, I don't know.

The stock sleeving job on these cables was certainly nothing special. Lots of glue!


I found the easiest way to remove the heatshink (if you can even call it that) is like this, with baby pliers. Slice a small tear with a razor blade, then start ripping. Otherwise the 'heatshrink, glue, and zip ties make it too tough to cut with a blade without risking slicing the wires.




Edited by ballnuts - 11/8/12 at 4:34pm
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he-he .. miles ahead of me, aren't you ! if you want advice on that sleeving thang, talk to Mandrix - he's been there, dug thru the sources for all parts, done that. Or still in the process of finishing up.

And I mean starting out with fresh wire, new connectors; the Seasonic psu, while a monster in reliability and power and efficiency, is one of the damndest psu's to sleeve, because of the double wires, the pins in the connectors ... I have literally read the tears of men as they describe their frustration with 'sleeving a seasonic'. So beware. And heed the help of others. Truly a brave Ulysses to get thru such a task redface.gif
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Just buy some pins and 18 gauge wire and make your own cable for that.
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he-he .. miles ahead of me, aren't you ! if you want advice on that sleeving thang, talk to Mandrix - he's been there, dug thru the sources for all parts, done that. Or still in the process of finishing up.
And I mean starting out with fresh wire, new connectors; the Seasonic psu, while a monster in reliability and power and efficiency, is one of the damndest psu's to sleeve, because of the double wires, the pins in the connectors ... I have literally read the tears of men as they describe their frustration with 'sleeving a seasonic'. So beware. And heed the help of others. Truly a brave Ulysses to get thru such a task redface.gif

Ruh Roh. I'll see if I can get Mandrix to reveal some specifics...
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Just buy some pins and 18 gauge wire and make your own cable for that.

You can just use 18 gauge wire for everything? Why so many colors on the ATX plug? I need to do some reading... If you can provide me with some wisdom here, I would love to hear it Fuganator. I know basically 0 about wiring up a PC. Time to do some learnin'. typer.gif
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Get yourself over to the Lutro0 threads .... soak up all dat wizdum and years of experience

http://www.overclock.net/f/17973/cables-and-sleeving

frequently asked sleeving questions and the Video guide sections
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Get yourself over to the Lutro0 threads .... soak up all dat wizdum and years of experience
http://www.overclock.net/f/17973/cables-and-sleeving
frequently asked sleeving questions and the Video guide sections

Hey thanks, looks like there's tons of great info in here. I tried my hand at a SATA wire a second ago, came out decent. You can see the bleed through, so I'll probably switch over to black wire, just didn't have any on me due to the Corsair Force GT being a friction SATA instead of a clip SATA (the clips won't click, and will fall out). But not too terrible. I will need to re-do this cable anyway, since it's much too long. Haven't yet dove into creating SATA cables. I'm sure it will be a joy. Also, used only a lighter for the heat shrink. I'm thinking the heat gun will be the next item on my list. Also ordered the clippers and a couple other goodies from Amazon. Prime will have them here shortly...

One thing I should mention for the bleed through, unless you look really closely, you can't see it under normal lighting conditions. I think it just came out this way due to the camera and the flash exposing everything. Pretty amazing material. So far, Caselabs and MDPC sleeving have been my favorite purchases in terms of perfectionism.

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Flip the PSU - that top fan is only pulling air in the case and exhausting it out the PSU's rear. By flipping it, the 8 pin connector is now on top and further inside. Hmm, whats the floor like ? dusty ? animals ? That wood floor is what it sits on, right ?
Forgot to answer this. No pets, not much dust (I am anal about dust). Here is where she sits for now. In the process of moving into the office, but she will stay on the cart smile.gif

Please excuse the power strip and my ghetto internet solution (laptop wireless card wired to desktop) tongue.gif


Also, the front of the case setup will change (fan and dvd player location), just have it there for now. I wish I would have ordered one more 5.25 bay plate for the SM8, may be needing it with final arrangement.
Edited by ballnuts - 11/8/12 at 6:44pm
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It all looks good, its temp, you're on your way. Nice to know about the sata cable's bleed through only at close range. I paid a guy to sleeve my cables, he's one of the best if not the best. But I ended up using silverstone sata cables, the sleeving is very good and is tight, and are clips that stay, 20cm cables, about $5 a pop.

I like that hard wood floor - no more static shocks ? And that table - you put that together ? that hard wood is NICE. And its under frame - is that metal ? Is it buyable as is ?
I like that depth of the table. I bought some HomeDepot 4'x2.5' folding tables, they're fine but it was a quicker way than going after a serious table.

One more note - I wish that dvd drive makers would give us an optional sleek black face. I've seen others paint, mark thru the text, or use vinyl wrap - none a great solution. When going black, the fascia needs to be equally black.

Oh yah - thanks for the rep - at one time I was focussed on gaining rep to be able to list in the marketplace ... that no longer matters, I am glad to share what info I can, coz that's how I'm learning, and beginning to take more of a do-it-yourself approach to building a pc. For years, I was able to assemble a pc and get it running, no big deal. But planning and building a build is something else. Its easy to appreciate the builds that appeal to one's aesthetic sense, its another to begin to think and do that your own self.
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It all looks good, its temp, you're on your way. Nice to know about the sata cable's bleed through only at close range. I paid a guy to sleeve my cables, he's one of the best if not the best. But I ended up using silverstone sata cables, the sleeving is very good and is tight, and are clips that stay, 20cm cables, about $5 a pop.

Nice, and good price. I am happy that I chose to do the sleeving. Teaches me something new, and it's way easier than I imagined. The 2 things that Lutro mentions, which actually are needed IMO (having sleeved one cable in my lifetime lachen.gif) are the straight cut clippers and the heat gun. I did that SATA cable with shoddy scissors and a lighter, and it turned out fine, but left much perfection to be desired.
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I like that hard wood floor - no more static shocks ? And that table - you put that together ? that hard wood is NICE. And its under frame - is that metal ? Is it buyable as is ?
I like that depth of the table. I bought some HomeDepot 4'x2.5' folding tables, they're fine but it was a quicker way than going after a serious table.

http://www.roomandboard.com/rnb/product/detail.do?productGroup=19577 This is pretty much my table, looks like they made an upgrade to it since I purchased it. I'm sure someone could put one together. The top is solid cherry. 40" square, 29"H. I wish I had the skills/tools to make it smile.gif, maybe for another day.
ADD: Actually they still do have my version smile.gif http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/roomandboard/?layer=0&src=210339_top_C&layer=comp&$truvu0$&wid=493
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One more note - I wish that dvd drive makers would give us an optional sleek black face. I've seen others paint, mark thru the text, or use vinyl wrap - none a great solution. When going black, the fascia needs to be equally black.

O yea. Definitely not planning on keeping it that way. Just a temporary solution so I could get ol' windows installed smile.gif. Speaking of which, I need to find a way to get a good price on a full license, since my disks were only upgrade disks, so the online license thing is not agreeing with my key. I know there are illegal ways, but not interested in that. I know the software and plan to use it biggrin.gif. That doesn't mean I want to pay full retail if avoidable though.
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Oh yah - thanks for the rep - at one time I was focused on gaining rep to be able to list in the marketplace ... that no longer matters, I am glad to share what info I can, coz that's how I'm learning, and beginning to take more of a do-it-yourself approach to building a pc. For years, I was able to assemble a pc and get it running, no big deal. But planning and building a build is something else. Its easy to appreciate the builds that appeal to one's aesthetic sense, its another to begin to think and do that your own self.

Absolutely, whenever someone offers me their wisdom or a new way to look at things, I like to give credit. It definitely perpetuates the learning on both sides.
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I do all custom cables for my builds.

Basically you cut a new cable to the length you want. (make it a bit longer just incase).
Pull the cable out of say pin 1 in the CPU connector. Follow it to the next connector and pull it out.
Put the new cable in where you just took that cable out of.
Rinse and repeate for all cables.

Let me know if you need anymore help.
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