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I bet Intel doesn't like how well vishera is doing one bit.

Why? In heavily threaded apps it competes with their similarly priced product (3570k), and in lightly threaded apps it loses handily to the same product. It's a nice (and needed) improvement over bulldozer, but let's not get carried away.
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It is not close enough to be Marginal .. It is losing in most of the benchmarks to a stock 3570k Those can be had for 200$ which is 20$ less then this cpu.
It is a great improvement over BD and a great upgrade for anyone on AM3+ and a very cheap 229$ up grad at that sure can not knock that.. that is good stuff there.. Wish intel did that...
Those 4 benchmarks pretty much proved everything i said about performance But still if you have an AM3+ board this is a must have upgrade ...

There's plenty of other benchmarks showing some pretty positive results. As stated by one, Ivy bridge is the fourth generation of intel's archecture, thus it's had many optimizations. Piledriver is just the first revision,and really just optimization, to bulldozer. That said, it's regular price will be $199(Atleast $20 "early adopters" fee), which is pretty competitive considering the 3570 is $215 on new egg and the 3570K is $230. If your sole goal is gaming, obviously the 3570k is the one to get, but if you use alot of multithreaded applications and are afraid of overclocking, 8350 makes alot of sense even on a new build.

I think the fact that we are seeing such divided benchmarks is a good thing. BD benchmarks all took a very negative turn very fast, and there is a general feeling of "nope" surrounding it, lol. So, for vishera to be given a "ObamaNotBad.jpg" rating, it needed to be a decent setup up for a good price. And i think AMD delivered on the pricing, it's pretty aggresive from the start.

Also, perhaps the 8320 will clock aswell as the 8350. If that's the case, a $170(after launch prices fade, obviously) CPU comes very close to a $230 CPU. Definitely not a bad value!
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....Those 4 benchmarks pretty much proved everything i said about performance.....

Are you referring to half assed benchmark you posted with 35% better performance for the 3570K? If you are, all this shows is your ability to cherry pick benchmarks rolleyes.gif Remember, pretty graphs and numbers only tell half the story.

I'll personally be waiting to see our own members first hand experience and un-biased benchmarks with the new chips. Computerparts, you out there?
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HardOC can be very biased once the storm that is brewing is just right... wink.gif also to with the failure to launch BD promises that AMD were made everyone wanted to see if AMD's promise of 15% was actually going to be real and by reviews going against the 8150 they are true, not only that but in some cases it reached up to 20% which solidifies thier promise even more. hell they promise power consumption reduction as it maybe small for some but for majority every watt reduced counts. smile.gif
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Are you referring to half assed benchmark you posted with 35% better performance for the 3570K? If you are, all this shows is your ability to cherry pick benchmarks rolleyes.gif Remember, pretty graphs and numbers only tell half the story.
I'll personally be waiting to see our own members first hand experience and un-biased benchmarks with the new chips. Computerparts, you out there?

These are the Big 4.. when it comes to Benchmarks reviews... im pretty sure they did not all get in a room and say.. lets make the 8350 look bad. so Amd does not send us any more samples lachen.gif This is what your really gonna get.. so please do not try to hype yourself up.. or say the reviews Lie..


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/22/amd_fx8350_piledriver_processor_ipc_overclocking

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX-8350_Piledriver_Review/7.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57446-fx-8350-cpu-review-amds-vishera-arrives-5.html

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/880-1/amd-fx-8350-retour-amd.html

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/processors/1295398/amd-fx-8350/2

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_fx8350/12.htm

http://www.pcgamer.com/review/amd-fx-8350-review/

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/vishera_review

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8350.html
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Hey bro, I have news for you, you are not trying hard enough. You need to try twice as hard as you are trying now.

What in gods Name are you talking about ?

Supplying Information to the masses ? that is alot of info there. But if you need more.....

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3328.html

http://www.pcgamer.com/review/amd-fx-8350-review/

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_fx8350/

http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...driver_Review/

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-F...eview/?page=10

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/proce.../amd-fx-8350/2

http://techreport.com/review/23750/a...essor-reviewed

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2055/1/

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...d-fx-8350.html

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=962&Itemid=63

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...a-arrives.html

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-...formula-z-rog/

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,1.html

http://www.bjorn3d.com/2012/10/amd-f.../#.UIZJdcXA95Y

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-fx-8...ver-cpu-review

http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...-r2-review/22/

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...312-amd-fx8350

http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...d_fx_6300.html

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...zer-fell-short

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/46...iledriver-cpu/

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8...nce/17494.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/...c_overclocking

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/t...-fx4300-tested

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/880-...etour-amd.html

http://www.eteknix.com/reviews/proce...cessor-review/

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/22/a...essor-vishera/

Do not blame the messenger .

This is the onlything a Person with AM3+ needs to really worry about.. Below



20% in Crysis 2 that is pretty sweet performance jump right there.

Seems Vishera Improved alot on the gaming front for sure.
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This is the onlything a Person with AM3+ needs to really worry about.. Below

20% in Crysis 2 that is pretty sweet performance jump right there.
Seems Vishera Improved alot on the gaming front for sure.

That is the most god-awful useless graph I have ever seen,Quit thread crapping and filling it up with USELESS posts. We have an Official Vishera thread with benchmarks. We all know how to use Google.We have no need of you to come in here and point out what everyone in the world can see,and make up their own mind. AMD is not stopping producing desktop CPU's,they have tons of APU's lined up.Please,just stop the trolling.Your not good at it and no one needs it.
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That is the most god-awful useless graph I have ever seen,Quit thread crapping and filling it up with USELESS posts. We have an Official Vishera thread with benchmarks. We all know how to use Google.We have no need of you to come in here and point out what everyone in the world can see,and make up their own mind. AMD is not stopping producing desktop CPU's,they have tons of APU's lined up.Please,just stop the trolling.Your not good at it and no one needs it.



Posting every benchmark there is... is trolling? And being 100% Honest and non bias? for your post see Gif above.
First i was told i was cherry picking bench marks.. So i posted all of them to show no i was not.. i just posted the most well known reviewers of hardware...

If my Cpu said 1055T and i posted all the same stuff nothing like this would have ever been said to me.. In truth i am being trolled here..


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
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Who buy this CPU and OC on 4.8-5.0GHz, difference between that and 3570k OC in power consumption for one year is one 3770k new, maybe more.
For two years 3930k for sure. Or HD7970 free for one year, or something like that, Dominator + H100 + Force GT free for one year.
Better use credit than and go on 3930k immediately instead of after 18 months you have FX8350 and you spend 3930k in HEAT.

And after everything this CPU is competitive only in application where people use 3930K and 3960X if need CPU for that and for work.
In gaming this is 1100T with 2 more cores and bigger power consumption.
They can next year 10 cores 450W and close to Haswell in multi core but in single tread...and how many times that and how much.

Year 2020 Intel presented new 6 cores CPU with power consumption of 25W, AMD is still in game only 30% behind Intel with their 32 Cores 1200W consumption, train in room, heat, vapor ... If you buy Intel for 5 year you can buy house for free for 12 months car.
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