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soo it's as powerful as a 3770k without HT? is that what im seeing?
Slightly behind basically a i5 3570k..And thats their top gun. Wished it was a little bit stronger to push the prices down and enforce competition, even though im an Intel guy.

the 8350 is what? 35-40$ cheaper than the 3570k and is equal/better depending on the use of the product. I think AMD has a winner here.

Edit: My bad did they increase the MRSP since release? So 20$ cheaper than the 3570k

Typical retailer price gouging. The MSRP is still $195 for the 8350 and $170 for the 8320, which is what they're going for at Micro Center atm.
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3570k is 10 dollars more on newegg.
8350 wins in multi threaded apps
3570K wins in single thread, games and power consumption

And just for that $10 difference, its best to go Intel.
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And just for that $10 difference, its best to go Intel.

Why? My rendering times, and my productivity / efficiency in time would be worse if I spent the $10 extra. Oh wait, games are the only thing people use on pc's... I keep forgetting that thumb.gif

We all can't live in the single threaded is better so the entire cpu is now better universe forever, multithreading is taking over for anything that matters. In all reality, if a game is poorly coded to only use 1 or 2 threads than BD's and PD's are still more than enough to max those games out without a sweat.. But as more games become threaded for four+ cores properly, well it will be like going from a single to dual core all over again in performance. Only the i7's and FX-8's will reap the gains, and believe me, it is very noticeable when done right.
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Why? My rendering times, and my productivity / efficiency in time would be worse if I spent the $10 extra. Oh wait, games are the only thing people use on pc's... I keep forgetting that thumb.gif
We all can't live in the single threaded is better so the entire cpu is now better universe forever, multithreading is taking over for anything that matters. In all reality, if a game is poorly coded to only use 1 or 2 threads than BD's and PD's are still more than enough to max those games out without a sweat.. But as more games become threaded for four+ cores properly, well it will be like going from a single to dual core all over again in performance. Only the i7's and FX-8's will reap the gains, and believe me, it is very noticeable when done right.

And how long will that take?
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Why? My rendering times, and my productivity / efficiency in time would be worse if I spent the $10 extra. Oh wait, games are the only thing people use on pc's... I keep forgetting that thumb.gif
We all can't live in the single threaded is better so the entire cpu is now better universe forever, multithreading is taking over for anything that matters. In all reality, if a game is poorly coded to only use 1 or 2 threads than BD's and PD's are still more than enough to max those games out without a sweat.. But as more games become threaded for four+ cores properly, well it will be like going from a single to dual core all over again in performance. Only the i7's and FX-8's will reap the gains, and believe me, it is very noticeable when done right.

And how long will that take?

By the time it's common we'll be complaining about how the devs wasted so much time trying to become more parallel when they should be focusing on HSA.
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>eight core

>reports 4 cores.

Because screw logic.
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1iQ0S
>eight core

>reports 4 cores.

Because screw logic.

It's because Windows treats it as a 4C/8T CPU to yield slightly better single-thread performance considering the 4M/8T (aka, 4 front end & 4 FP / 8 int) design.
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And just for that $10 difference, its best to go Intel.

Why? My rendering times, and my productivity / efficiency in time would be worse if I spent the $10 extra. Oh wait, games are the only thing people use on pc's... I keep forgetting that thumb.gif

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The value of i7s and FX-8xxx cpus in games isn't about the performance of the game, its about the performance of everything else you're running while you're running a game.

Open up a game, then start doing something else like encoding a movie. If you don't have an i7 or a 8 core FX, the game slows to a crawl. i5s are pretty neat price/performance in games but the value of having additional threads for everything else running on your computer is pretty nice. If it were me, I'd choose a 8320 over a 3570k just because of how I use my rig. If I had money to burn, I'd go for a 3770k, which I obviously did.

That being said single threaded performance is still important and it being the primary focus of Steamroller is good news.

edit: I agree with what you said btw lol
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I don't have time right now to dink with it, but iirc there is a windows version out their.

I could wait smile.gif 'Cos google searching has brought me nothing ...
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The value of i7s and FX-8xxx cpus in games isn't about the performance of the game, its about the performance of everything else you're running while you're running a game.
Open up a game, then start doing something else like encoding a movie. If you don't have an i7 or a 8 core FX, the game slows to a crawl. i5s are pretty neat price/performance in games but the value of having additional threads for everything else running on your computer is pretty nice. If it were me, I'd choose a 8320 over a 3570k just because of how I use my rig. If I had money to burn, I'd go for a 3770k, which I obviously did.
That being said single threaded performance is still important and it being the primary focus of Steamroller is good news.
edit: I agree with what you said btw lol

You've summed up what I left out perfectly. This is exactly why I choose my FX-8120 at the time over an i5 (as my budget was tighter at the time, too, so couldn't grab an i7), I do a lot of photoshop, rendering, etc and do enjoy some games here and there. Having four additional 'cores' really helps the over all smooth nature of my multitasking and I don't think I could ever go back to less than that. Just for testing, I sropped my fx-8120 to 4 cores strictly (to test ipc improvements in single threaded games) and the system with as much as I had open definitely didn't feel as snappy as it was with the additonal enabled.
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