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Well as said. Before CD2 was released th differences between the AMD and Intel CPU'S apart from Speed was that Intel Did 6 Operations per cycle and AMD did 9...The More the better. However the New c2d does 12 Ops while amd still only does 9.
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well i hope we dont get into another argument here, but now since amd does 9 thingies, what mobo should i get if my friend who i am building a computer wants to do gaming and he might want to go SLI, i know lots of AMD boards have two pci-e slots, what socket should i get? i have everything else out i just need to change the mobo and processor, any suggestions here, this is the first time i am considereing anything about AMD, so im an AMD noob!
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If you want SLI you will have better overclocking options with mother boards for AMD. I hear a NF4 chipset on an intel system is a bad, bad thing. The same pretty much holds true for crossfire. The only exceptions might be the new mother boards with chipsets spicifically designed for the conroe core CPUs, but most of them are rather spendy.

You can get a good SLI mother board for a socket 939 system for around a $100...and decent ones for much less.
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Do you have proof that this has never been proven?
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No, my AMD 4200 can't overclock past 2.6GHz without being unstable. Thats why I'm only at 2.55GHz.
You got a bad stepping. My 4200 can hit 3.1 ghz on air. I run it at 2.98 24/7 on air. So don't say AMD's don't overclock well just because of your bad chip..... BAD CHIP!
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Come on, stop playing stupid. I have an Athlon Dual Core 4200 OC to 2.55GHz and I get blown out of the water by the new Conroes Core 2 Duos. Stop kidding yourself, I have gotten over the fact that AMD is falling behind and now it is time to move on to Intel. Once bigger and more expansive games come out, Intel will really shine and AMD will fall even further behind. And by the way, Intel is very well known for overclocking which AMD is not except for a few of their processors. Just live with the tough fact, Intel is better and thats that.
Well let's look at a little history...

In 1999, AMD came out with the Athlon, a processor that blew anything Intel had to offer out of the water. It was the world's first 7th generation (7x86) microprocessor and much more advanced than the Pentium III. Intel wasn't really able to compete until 2002, when they finally released the Northwood Pentium 4. By this time, AMD had already been making the extremely successful Athlon XP. They were making a name for themselves in the enthusiast and overclocking market. Yes, I said overclocking.

In April 2003, AMD released the Opteron, the world's first 8th generation x86 CPU. Once again, they pwned all Intel offerings, including the super expensive P4 extreme edition. They came out with the highly successful (and overclockable) Athlon 64 in Septemer of the same year.

In Feb 2004, Intel released the Prescott in a vain attempt to compete, but it was plagued with heat issues and was actually slower than the Northwood in games. When Intel finally released their 8th generation offering, The Core 2, it was summer 2006... more than 3 years after AMD released theirs. Intel is finally on top after all these years... but for how long?

AMD has their K8L in the works, which will be much better than the Core 2 and will likely bring AMD into the lead once again. As far as current K8 chips being poor overclockers... have you ever heard of the 3700+ San Diego or the Opteron 165 Denmark? People are getting well over 1GHz overclocks with these chips. AMD not known for overclocking? Yeah, right.
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heh...my first 4200+ I had was junk...one core would not go over 2.4GHz. I RMA'ed and my next didn't do so well either. I to do three tries before I got this gem I have now. You just got an average 4200 there and 2.55GHz is still a pretty darn good OC. I remember when I would OC a 100MHz and be over joyed.

I have no doubts AMD will get back in the lead again. I just don't really expect it to happen till late 2007 or early 2008 at the soonest. mean while...I'll be happlily crunching with my kick butt 939 system.
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AMD has their K8L in the works, which will be much better than the Core 2 and will likely bring AMD into the lead once again. As far as current K8 chips being poor overclockers... have you ever heard of the 3700+ San Diego or the Opteron 165 Denmark? People are getting well over 1GHz overclocks with these chips. AMD not known for overclocking? Yeah, right.
uh, not 1 ghz, but 1.2 GHz...come on you're not giving enough credit to amd!
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i could hit 2.8-3.0 easily if i go and pick up a aftermarket cooler. AMD doesnt overclock well, haa. But here comes my 2 cents for buying Processors. I like AMDs a tad better then Intels for the pure fact that they have a little advantage over intel when it comes to gaming(not including the c2d). I dont go for bleeding edge tech. I wait for issues and stability to be solved. Theres no point in going out and buying the lastest and greatest because it can bite you in the butt when the opposition releases its newest chips that outperform yours. Some people dont like to wait but I would rather wait and see what AMD has to offer with there newest chips. Then all you have to do is compare chips from both companies and determine which has the best performance for money value, stability, and overclock ability. Just my opinion on buying a processor.
    
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Well let's look at a little history...

AMD has their K8L in the works, which will be much better than the Core 2 and will likely bring AMD into the lead once again. As far as current K8 chips being poor overclockers... have you ever heard of the 3700+ San Diego or the Opteron 165 Denmark? People are getting well over 1GHz overclocks with these chips. AMD not known for overclocking? Yeah, right.
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uh, not 1 ghz, but 1.2 GHz...come on you're not giving enough credit to amd!
Well over..yo!
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