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Not all AWG 18 is equal...

post #1 of 6
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I've started a project to clean up the power-cable mess in my servers. In doing that I've stumbled upon a few setbacks - one is cables...

Look at this:



Above is ModDIY 1007 18 AWG cable, below the Corsair default 18 AWG cable.

The ModDIY cable is so thin that it doesn't make proper contact with the SATA power push-down connectors, and cannot withstand a pull test without stripping the wire. It has way more than 16 strands (unlike what it says on the ModDIY product page, and the wires are super-thin). I thought 1007/18 AWG should be 16 strand/30mm?

Anyone have experiences like this? I've ordered a 32 strand 20mm cable now (european equivalent to 17 AWG) and hope that works better.
post #2 of 6
I wouldn't order cables, especially from ModDIY as they are pretty lousy when it comes to QC.

Cables are generally readily available at electrical retail stores and considering the small saving, I would recommend to have a look at them before buying. As you said, all cables of the same WG are not equal and show variation in threads material, wall material, wall thickness, etc...If you can just go to a retail store with a piece of the cable you want to match and have a look at them by yourself, as said earlier you won't save much by ordering anyway. Just my 2cts, cheers
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
In Europe this cable isn't that easy to source in retail chains - I guess it's used for more stuff in the US... I found the European style cable I mentioned online in Norway for $75 including shipping (for 330ft) so not to bad. If that doesn't work, I'll just have to bite the bullet and buy from some name brand american company.
post #4 of 6
I'm actually European as well, even though I live in Asia...

Thinner gauge cables might be difficult to find, but personnaly I never had the issue back there, however I was living in the biggest city, which generally makes things easier to find.

I am know living in HK and I generally do not recommend ModDIY as they tend to source their items from the cheapest Chinese suppliers. Don't get me wrong, whatever cable you find in Europe or the US are Made in China, but there are severral levels of quality. Knowing the HK market and having buy a few times from them, I tend to be very cautious with this company, however they have good delivery service and supply hard-to-find connectors.

Most stores will go at least as low as 16WG, and personnaly when I can use this gauge, I go for it. You will hear here and there that is it difficult/impossible to sleeve 16WG properly but that's not true, you just have to grab the right sleeve diameter. I just finished my build, and all cables from my Enermax PSU were 16WG, I sleeved hundreds of cables withotu any issue.

I keep thinner gauges for cables I can't re-crimp because I'm lacking the right connectors. If you sleeve your cables or don't mind the color you really should be able to find a good product in retail stores.

It's not ridiculously easy to find either, I had to try over twenty stores to find the right one here in HK, but I found 16/18/20WG in most of them, as I said it sometimes just not the right cable even though the WG is correct (very thick or ultra thin wall, etc...), but at least I can have a close look at cable prior to throwing some bucks
post #5 of 6
hmpth.


I'm going to make some custom modular cables for my HX750 (SATA power, really short GPU cables, etc), and I was hoping to use some 300v McMasterCarr generic 18awg cable. Hopefully their product isn't subpar like ModDIY's stuff obviously is...
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post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
To be honest - if you want short cable, I'd just move one of the existing contacts on a original Corsair cable or reshrink the end. Since I need 120 cm (4 ft) cables that wasn't an option for me.
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