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lol beef miracle
I really agree with how much xorg sucks and wayland is just so freaking late
personlly I think the packaging issue is a little bit annoying but the 'fix' (tight standards) is fair worse. a bit of a non issue also considering software isn't really that hard to port
I think most of the speed issues relate to major des, so this is more of an issue for new users, where anything > windows so again, a bit of non issue
personlly, gimp and audacity work fine for me, and I don't think FOSS is the problem
while games may be a problem or OCNers, most people just want firefox+office+youtube
itunes is massive problem. so many people use idevices
funding is a big problem. personlly I'm just 14 so have no money to donnate, but if I could, I would. its free to use, but its not free to make. at the same time, closed source is not an option for me

To me personally the biggest loss are my tools. The whole Autocad family and the Adobe family I really need them and can't do without them. WINE probably supports them but I really like native support
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I think Bryan's (the guy talking) points about funding at the end are the big fix to just about everything. And the sad thing is just how negative people responded to such ideas; just take a look at the slight backlash and side step that hit when Ubuntu had an intermediate page about donating before it let you download. The big problem is there needs to be an organized and readily identifiable location where Linux/OSS projects can setup in bazaar and get funded or sell programs in an easy to navigate and understand manner.
     
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I think Bryan's (the guy talking) points about funding at the end are the big fix to just about everything. And the sad thing is just how negative people responded to such ideas; just take a look at the slight backlash and side step that hit when Ubuntu had an intermediate page about donating before it let you download. The big problem is there needs to be an organized and readily identifiable location where Linux/OSS projects can setup in bazaar and get funded or sell programs in an easy to navigate and understand manner.

in terms of 'selling' software its very hard to sell FOSS software for any money, because someone can just take the source, debrand it of your trademarks (if present) and give it away for free. for non-FOSS, theres always ubuntu one and other crap like that. in terms of a place to get funding, what about kickstart?
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He has a few valid points. (I got bored at 10 mins, so I stopped watching.)

Especially the driver issues and damaged packages. Which I've experienced a few times.

All is well, though I'd like better support for games smile.gif
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in terms of 'selling' software its very hard to sell FOSS software for any money, because someone can just take the source, debrand it of your trademarks (if present) and give it away for free. for non-FOSS, theres always ubuntu one and other crap like that. in terms of a place to get funding, what about kickstart?

It's not as identifiable with Linux as a whole and the majority of people there will likely go view it under suspicions thinking there's a reason it's not a profitable project because they're assuming things are Windows or Mac only. We need to make our own "store" if you will and make it usable for the laymen. Linux's big problem and the reason it isn't better than where it is now is because of money. That money comes from getting the technically inept but financially capable to move over.

Your statement about FOSS software is missing one thing...what's the incentive for a person to spend that time and get nothing in return? Which is kind of the whole point as to why we don't have the best software in Linux in the first place. The incentive (pay/compensation) to spend the time is not there and we need to figure out how to make one.
     
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What I like about linux -- It handles code better than Windows.

What I dislike about linux -- It's harder to program for.
     
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in terms of 'selling' software its very hard to sell FOSS software for any money, because someone can just take the source, debrand it of your trademarks (if present) and give it away for free. for non-FOSS, theres always ubuntu one and other crap like that. in terms of a place to get funding, what about kickstart?

It's not as identifiable with Linux as a whole and the majority of people there will likely go view it under suspicions thinking there's a reason it's not a profitable project because they're assuming things are Windows or Mac only. We need to make our own "store" if you will and make it usable for the laymen. Linux's big problem and the reason it isn't better than where it is now is because of money. That money comes from getting the technically inept but financially capable to move over.

Your statement about FOSS software is missing one thing...what's the incentive for a person to spend that time and get nothing in return? Which is kind of the whole point as to why we don't have the best software in Linux in the first place. The incentive (pay/compensation) to spend the time is not there and we need to figure out how to make one.
considering all the people that do indeed make money programing FOSS software yes it is possable. Red Hat makes it though selling services (well, they 'sell' the OS, but since no one would use it if they didn't offer something that CentOS didn't, which is services) some take donations. thats the problem though- getting people to donate. thats why I have no problem with the donate screen in frount of ubuntu, and can't really understand why everyone is freaking out about it
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What I like about linux -- It handles code better than Windows.

What I dislike about linux -- It's harder to program for.

how is it hard to program in? just use c. code guis using gtk+ or qt. you can even do alot just using bash
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I saw that a couple of hours ago and it's awesome as well
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