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Originally Posted by Tadaen Sylvermane 
Being a linux noob myself a fair amount was over my head. But what I did understand I agree with completely. What got me the most is the expectation or belief that software should be free. That is one of the reason's i've been leaning towards linux but the way it's put in the video that simply isn't viable. People should be paid for their work. In another thread someone mentioned the idea that people think linux user's are freeloaders... in many ways that is an accurate statement.
Another thing that got me was the different methods of packaging. Yes use the package manager is what people are told but what if you want something that isn't in there? You are at the mercy of whatever method you find it in and there's no guarentee you can use it at all. Definitely needs to be standardized, philosophies be damned. Philosophy and or everyone having their own idea of what it should be is what is ultimately keeping linux in general down overall.
Sometimes to much choice is a bad thing.
*EDIT* Another thing about standardizing things. I just opened my ubuntu vm and looked in the package manager for text editor. Scrolling through the list I counted 26 basic text editing programs. I would imagine they all have some different feature. Wouldn't it be better if the best features from them all were combined into one instead of having 26 different programs to use? I know everyone wants to have "their own thing" but it certainly isn't in the best interests of the community as a whole. It also makes it more confusing. I believe 24 of these show up as "simple text editor" in the descriptions. How many do we really need? How much of this coding time could have been put into something else that doesn't exist yet?

Being a linux noob myself a fair amount was over my head. But what I did understand I agree with completely. What got me the most is the expectation or belief that software should be free. That is one of the reason's i've been leaning towards linux but the way it's put in the video that simply isn't viable. People should be paid for their work. In another thread someone mentioned the idea that people think linux user's are freeloaders... in many ways that is an accurate statement.
Another thing that got me was the different methods of packaging. Yes use the package manager is what people are told but what if you want something that isn't in there? You are at the mercy of whatever method you find it in and there's no guarentee you can use it at all. Definitely needs to be standardized, philosophies be damned. Philosophy and or everyone having their own idea of what it should be is what is ultimately keeping linux in general down overall.
Sometimes to much choice is a bad thing.
*EDIT* Another thing about standardizing things. I just opened my ubuntu vm and looked in the package manager for text editor. Scrolling through the list I counted 26 basic text editing programs. I would imagine they all have some different feature. Wouldn't it be better if the best features from them all were combined into one instead of having 26 different programs to use? I know everyone wants to have "their own thing" but it certainly isn't in the best interests of the community as a whole. It also makes it more confusing. I believe 24 of these show up as "simple text editor" in the descriptions. How many do we really need? How much of this coding time could have been put into something else that doesn't exist yet?
My friend the Slackware user always smirks on that one and goes why not just make it git or source (Gentoo style) or tarball based? I don't have an answer for him besides "I don't want to track down my own dependencies? I don't know how to setup Gentoo? I screw up things?"
My whole thing is that there needs to be something (especially for DEs as not all of us conform to the GTK world) that produces better compatibility across the board regardless; IE if I run GTK stuff in my KDE world with "dark themes" I shouldn't end up with blacked out apps because they can't render correctly. Or maybe that's just a sign of poor/lazy coding?
PS: If you want a trip down redundancy and unnecessary complexity lane...check out the sound server/sound system stack in Linux. LOL.







