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Coding, HD editing and rendering and looking really good thats what its foor
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Yeah OK, I was exaggerating a bit, but my point was $2100 out of $5800 on the GPUs alone, leaving $3700 for everything else, including all the rest of the water loop. Which probably means about $3000 for case, PSU motherboard, RAM, storage, monitors and software. It's just not proportionate to the budget - I think if he had 10k that would be worth doing (if that kind of GPU performance is needed), but with less than 6k it's not.

I can do it all for under 5500$ And thats new.. Shopping used i could swing it prolly for around 4500$
    
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i want a case that is useable not a steel shell.... lol im mostlikely going to use the cosmos 2 with a clear side plate
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Alright here goes;

First of all;

Basic components
Case - http://www.ldcooling.com/shop/18-atx-hptx - Yes I know its expensive but they look awesome and you can do a full internal loop thumb.gif (I recommend the red one myself wink.gif)
CPU - Intel Core i7 3930k
GPU - 2 x EVGA GTX680 (Reference design)
MOBO: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme (See the red/black theme wink.gif)
RAM: 32BG (4 x 8GB) G.Skill Ripjaw Z CAS11 2133MHz DDR3
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
SSD/HDD - Throw in a couple 256GB SSD's and some 3TB drives like you listed before thumb.gif

Total = ~$3.8k inc. case

Watercooling
CPU Block - Heatkiller Rev3.0 1366/2011
GPU Block - Heatkiller GPU-X3 GTX680 Hole Edition Nickel/Black
Radiator - 2 x XSPC RX360
Pump - Bitspower D5 / MCP655 Pump Mod Kit + D5/MCP655 Mod Top V2 w/ D5 Variant Pump Installed
Reservoir - Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 Inline Reservoir - Ice Red
Fittings - 10 x Enzotech G1/4" Thread 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD Compression Fitting + Take at look at getting this SLI connector and add the Link GeForce x 2 option thumb.gif - Probably best to ask in the watercooling section regarding the SLI links/fittings as I've never used one myself (I have water cooled in the past, but not SLI)
Tubing - 1 x PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LT Red - 10ft pack
Fans - 12 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1150rpm (For push/pull on both rads thumb.gif)

Total = ~$1000-$1200

Others
Monitors - 3 x Acer GD235HZ Black/Orange 120HZ
Plus the other stuff you listed in OP;
Logitech G9x
Corsair Vengeance K90 Black/Metal USB Wired Gaming Performance
2x BitFenix LED-Strip White 30cm
6x 18" SATA 6 Gbps Cable
steelseries 63003SS QCK+ Mouse Pad

Total = ~$1100(?)

Overall cost = $5600-$6000

EDIT: Derp, somehow forgot about SSD/HDD tongue.gif
Edited by Vengeance47 - 10/21/12 at 9:10pm
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ohh i forgot to say im going to make a ram disk for premier, Photoshop, and aftereffects.
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what you are planning actualy isnt the best for video rendering and encoding and decoding... with non-CUDA based programs, AMD often take the lead by a ways because of its "brute force" processing... also, a RAM disk would be extremely useful and you must make sure not to fill up your SSDs too far as they do slow down

my sugestion:

Gear:
1x AsRock extreme 11 599.99 (only since u seem set on it... XPower is a better choice IMO)
1x 3930k (from microcenter) 499.99
1x Vertex 4 256GB 209.99
5x WD green 2 TB 109.99 ea (RAID 5 if you use the Extreme 11)
1x Dominator GT 32GB 1866MHz 389.99
2x 7970s (either lightning or Direct CU imo) 434.99/499.99
1x SeaSocin Platinum 1000w 219.99

total:
$3339.88 (with Extreme 11 and DirectCU)
$3469.88 (with Extreme 11 and Lightning)
$3119.88 (with XPower II and DirectCU)
$3249.88 (with XPower II and Lightning)


Case:
case labs what ever you may choose (must be a 10 for either motherboard)
$750 (just to be safe), but more likely around $600 if you go M10 or such
or
something still flashy (LEDS everywhere is not flashy)... make sure it has a window... 800D or such would be good if you are up to a decent bit of modding $300


Loop:
this should only cost around 1.5-2k... make sure to cool everything (mobo, ram, CPU, GPUs) and keep it very tidy and neat

Extra:
allocate around $150-200 for cable sleeving materials (new connectors, crimps, and para-cord for sleeving)... use what ever may be left over for SSDs or such

Perifreals:
up to you, but i would go Chery MX Blue keyboard, and a sleek mouse (again, notthing too flash).. also, get some Korean 1440p 10bit monitors



this is my suggestion if you are going for flashy... if you are going for more usefell, drop the loop, CL case, and use that extra money on more RAM (for RAM disk) and get RAID 10 SSDs, more monitor space, and a third card (AMD is a must for anything 1440P and over by the way)
Edited by eskamobob1 - 10/21/12 at 9:14pm
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the reason for the ram and hdds is because we will also use it for large HD video editing aslo and we need to save every video we make.
do u have an idea of how much more it will cost? i would like to do the watercooling and ik it will be alot of work but it will be worth it to me. i could get one less 680 and just water cool it all?
i have heard good things about ocz and the Corsair Neutron Series is my second choice
how about this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153155#top

Yeah, in that case, I'd get 64GB, but if budget becomes tight I think you'd still get by with 32GB. I don't edit HD video, but I do multitask heavily including sometimes multiple VMs open on 16GB, and I haven't felt the need for 32 yet. If I edited video, 32 would probably be necessary but even then 64 might not be.

The toughpowers have a good reputation - seems like it would be a good PSU. 1375W is more than you need, but that's not really a reason not to do it if the price is OK - I think PSUs should always be overspec'd by at least 20%, preferably 30%. I reckon you'll need no more than 1000w - with overclocks that is, stock that system will probably be under 800w - I have tri-sli 580s and with overclocks I only pull 1000w at most so given that 680s are much less power hungry you'd be fine with 1000w I think, but to overspec so you're not pushing the PSU hard I'd go for a 1200w unit, so yeah, 1375w is not necessary but if you can get it for a good price why not.

I don't know exactly about budget for the water cooling, what I can do though is give you a list of WC parts I'd buy for that kind of system (well, pretty much, it will be what I have) then you can see how much they come out at. If you add this up, perhaps you can save as much as 25% by hunting around for alternatives, but it's going to give you a good ballpark figure to start out with.

I'd get:

CPU BLOCK: EK Supremacy

GPU BLOCKS: EK-FC680 + EK Backplates (probably better if you don't have GPUs yet to just get factory water-blocked 680s, it'll be cheaper and no fooling around fitting the waterblocks and voiding warranties, but then you need to figure out what budget impact the watercooled 680s make vs air cooled ones, so I still left something in here)

Pump: MCP35x2

Res: Aquacomputer Aqualis XT with fill level sensor OR EK Multi-Option res 250 plus optionally something like an MPS Delta 40 from aquacomputer to use as a fill level sensor. Fill level sensor is not essential, but is nice because you can shut down automatically on a leak - probably not that useful though, since if you set that up even somewhat sensitively, quite a big leak would have happened by the time the aquaero pulled the power. If budget demands, the fill level sensor would be the first thing to go.

Rad: Either Phobya Nova 1080, a MORA of the same size, or something like 3x good quality 360 rads. You could also go for the Phobya 1260, but it's more expensive per unit area and probably isn't necessary. Same goes for 480 rads, but if your case would take them, maybe 2 of them would be a good option.

Rad Fans: 4 x Silverstone FM181 180mm fans (you need the phobya 4x180 grill to use these on a nova 1080, at extra cost). If using normal 360 or 480 rads, you'll likely want scythe gentle typhoon 1850rpm (AP-15), then it gets expensive - put it this way, 3x360 rads in push-pull is 18 gentle typhoons at probably $15 each.

Fan control and monitoring: Aquacomputer Aquaero 5 Pro. If you went 360/480 rads, you'd probably need poweradjust ultra's too which add extra capacity to the aquaero to handle more current to the fans - yet more money on top of those expensive AP-15s. The aquaero will handle 4 of the FM-181s on one of it's fan channels without any poweradjusts.

Flow sensor: Aquacomputer high flow sensor

Aquaero extra bit: ATX break cable, so the aquaero can hard-pull the power to the system on an alarm, essential in my opinion since I'd never trust it to shut down cleanly, I see shutdowns hang too often to entrust my expensive parts to an aquaero trying to shut down windows through software if something happens like a blockage or pump failure.

Temperature sensors: 2 inline water temperature sensors from whoever, one for water into the rad, one for water out. You'll get some sensors with an aquaero for air temperatures, and extra 10k ohm sensors are not expensive anyway if you need more. The water sensors will let you run fans off the delta using curve controllers in the aquaero, with 2 of them you can also calculate how much power the rad is dissipating, which is useless but interesting.

Cooling for the aquaero's fan amps: Aquacomputer waterblock for aquaero

Filter: Not strictly necessary, but I think a good idea - aquacomputer do a nice one with ball valves that makes cleaning easy but there are cheaper alternatives.

Fittings: SLI water fittings to parallel the GPU waterblocks, compressions (2 on the pump, 2 on the GPUs, 2 on the CPU, 2 on the rad, 2 on the res, 2 on the filter (if installed), 2 on the flow meter, 2 on the aquaero waterblock), I'd use something like EK-PSC or the XSPC coin-fit ones, everyone seems to use bitspower but they are really expensive and I don't see the advantage. Don't underestimate the cost of fittings - these will add up to a lot of money. Also, if you can, I'd do what I've done and try to not use rotaries inside the PC near expensive stuff, if anything is going to leak it will likely be a rotary. I have an external radbox, so I am able to have no rotaries at all in the PC, if you build in a big case like a case-labs then you may not be able to do that, but you could try to limit them to areas where a leak would be unlikely to cause a disaster. If budget demands, use barbs and hose clamps - that will save quite a lot.

Coolant: Deionised water, some copper sulphate solution (like pt nuke), and maybe some dye (only mayhems for dyes if you decide to use them).

Tubing: Whatever, stuff like primochill is overpriced and overrated I think, I use XSPC clear 1/2-3/4 hose and it's fine and quite cheap. Get twice as much as you think you'll need, then get some more.

I may have forgotten something, but that's probably most of what you'll need to buy for a water loop.

Don't forget to allow contingency for when something doesn't quite work out how you expected, which it will.
Edited by BorisTheSpider - 10/21/12 at 9:26pm
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i will be using the adobe software the most and it uses cuda a lot so i would like Nvidia
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i will be using the adobe software the most and it uses cuda a lot so i would like Nvidia

fair enough... then replace the 7970s with 2x 680s (you wont need more the this and they are realy inefficient at even CUDA based encoding and decoding along with rendering.. what you realy need is a quadro if im honest)... the vast majorty of the heavy lifting will be done by your CPU and RAM without a workstation card, so i would make sure you have fast, and reliable ram
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