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From CL site - Radiator Clearance (Top/Bottom): 114mm

Everyone starts out by calling the Monsta the 80mm rad, just like the 63mm RX360 is a "60mm". Well, to my surprise, when my 480 Monsta showed, it was actually 86mm. Even Alphacool's specs page lists it at being 80mm !

Now, whether you can actually fit a 480 with 1 set of 25mm fans into a 114mm space .... do the math. It would appear to be the case - by 3mm.

As for filtering, the problems with fitting a layer of filtering in front of the fans that are attached to the radiator are:

obscures the fan - aesthetic reason
is unremoveable on a front rad mount, unless you want to disassemble the rad from the fans from the rad mount.

Or you can try Hammerforged's method - http://www.overclock.net/t/1351221/sponsored-case-labs-st10-project-hardline/70#post_19562799

As for top fan filtering, you can try Scorpion49's example

http://www.overclock.net/t/1363705/build-log-wintergreen-featuring-amd-fx-8320-asus-sabertooth-990fx-r2-0-and-a-caselabs-sm8-with-dual-480mm-radiators/30#post_19409126

Thanks so much for that very comprehesive and quick reply. I didn't realize that the front panel was a cutout for the fan grill, I actually thought that the front panel was grilled and the fan grills were separate in order to conceal a filter. So now I know I was wrong. I was planning to use something similar to this: http://www.nexustek.nl/NXS-nexus-ff-series-fan-filters.htm

The sources you posted are affective and worth considering.
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Yah, that would work. When I was following the magnum double wide builds, I noticed the lack of filtering and lack of interest. And it enhances their look, that CaseLabs grill, IMO.

But with this new line of Merlins, came some people who were determined to filter. And it looks great and is easily done. IIRC, this was what he used for the mesh

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16427/ffi-102/FrozenCPUcom_Premium_Dust_Filter_Material_500mm_x_400mm_x_3mm.html?tl=g44c351

I like the look of fans thru the grill, but yah, i'm concerned about filtration, too. Got spoiled by all of the innovations the last few years, with slide-out filters and such.

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Edited by socketus - 4/5/13 at 9:30pm
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Yah, that would work. When I was following the magnum double wide builds, I noticed the lack of filtering and lack of interest. And it enhances their look, that CaseLabs grill, IMO.

But with this new line of Merlins, came some people who were determined to filter. And it looks great and is easily done. IIRC, this was what he used for the mesh

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16427/ffi-102/FrozenCPUcom_Premium_Dust_Filter_Material_500mm_x_400mm_x_3mm.html?tl=g44c351

I like the look of fans thru the grill, but yah, i'm concerned about filtration, too. Got spoiled by all of the innovations the last few years, with slide-out filters and such.

Keep on reading, CaseLab cases can be easy to appreciate online, but once you have one in home, its all too apparent what a great design it is. Learning about them is half the fun, building is the other half of fun. There are solutions - you just have to get creative, but you do not have to cut up the case to do it !

Thanks for that link, that will come in useful very soon. So, With the spacing between the fan mount and the mesh flex bay cover, isn't there enough room to slide the filter material down into there? I mean as opposed to binding it across the front as one did.
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Yah, I noticed that, too. It sure looks like it, maybe half of a 1/4" ? or a bit more ? but there is deffo a thin area of space running from top to bottom.
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Yah, I noticed that, too. It sure looks like it, maybe half of a 1/4" ? or a bit more ? but there is deffo a thin area of space running from top to bottom.

Now the question arises: What would accommodate the said "gap" more appropriately, 3mm or 5mm filter material (from the link above)? I suppose it depends on the size of the space between pieces.

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And then of course, the mesh bay cover could be made to be more easily accessible so that such filter material would be really easy to get to. I'm also waiting on the 140mm flex bays.
Edited by csimon - 4/6/13 at 4:03pm
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Well, here's the link hammerforged posted for his front cover, the 5mm

http://www.overclock.net/t/1354199/merlin-sm5-sm8-sm8-x-st10-st10-x-case-owners-club/90#post_19569698

I just measured the gap from case wall to inside of fan bay - its less than 8mm as the 8mm mark is showing on the outside, but couldn't get a clear view ... so the 5mm would fit.
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Very nice build indeed. I'm researching this for my next build. I've been trying to figure out if an acool 420 80mm monsta would fit in the bottom of the case with only one tier of fans and not the sandwich configuration. I also have a question about your build. I think I've read every post in this thread but I haven't seen mention of a filtering system for your fan intakes. Is that in the future of your build or are you not really that concerned about dust infiltration?

Like I said before, awesome build and very inspiring. I do believe this is the case for me.
Sorry for the delay in my response, I thought this thread was dead tongue.gif. My environment here is pretty dusty, but I decided not to bother with filters because either way I will be cleaning dust, either out of the filters or out of the case. Surprisingly, the dust has been relatively benign. Frankly, I'm getting a lot more dust on the case than in the case. I guess all those fans do more than just move air across the radiators.
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Sorry for the delay in my response, I thought this thread was dead tongue.gif. My environment here is pretty dusty, but I decided not to bother with filters because either way I will be cleaning dust, either out of the filters or out of the case. Surprisingly, the dust has been relatively benign. Frankly, I'm getting a lot more dust on the case than in the case. I guess all those fans do more than just move air across the radiators.

A lot of useful information in this thread and that makes for an excellent resource for an SM8 build.
Hope I didn't hijack it too bad. Thanks for the info on the dust management too, that was my biggest concern.
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A lot of useful information in this thread and that makes for an excellent resource for an SM8 build.
Hope I didn't hijack it too bad. Thanks for the info on the dust management too, that was my biggest concern.
I'm flattered that you think it is useful, and I think the questions about dust are very relevant. It was one of my concerns, I just left out filters out of laziness and lucked into it being a non-issue (so far).
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^ ^ This ! I, too, realized that the CL builds I followed last year were not addressing the FILTER issue, but also realized that since no one was complaining or even commenting on it, that there was PROBABLY not an issue to belabor. Looks sexier too biggrin.gif without filters, to my eyes, but there's nothing wrong in appearance or function with a filtered solution - Hammerforged's solutions positively ROCK !
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Intel i7-2600K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 G.SKILL Sniper 4x4 F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 
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Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 WD7501AALS Caviar Black WD5002AALX Caviar Black Lite-On iHAS124-04 
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Noctua NH-D14 Silverstone AP121-L x 6 Win 7 64bit HP ZR2440w 
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Ozone Gaming Gear Strike Mechanical Gaming Keyb... SeaSonic X Series X-850 SilverStone Temjin Series SST-TJ04B-EW Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired L... 
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Zowie Gear G-TF Speed e-Sport Gaming Mouse Pad Ratzpad 
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Intel i7-3770K ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 EVGA 02G-P4-2683-KR GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... 
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SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7... Lite-On iHAS124-04 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO 
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Windows 7 64 bit HP ZR2440w  CM Storm QuickFire Rapid SGK-4000-GKCL1-US SeaSonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
AZZA Genesis 9000 CSAZ-9000B Logictech G9x Zowie G-TF Spawn 
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Intel i7-3770K ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 EVGA 02G-P4-2683-KR GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 256GB SATA III WD VelociRaptor 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA... LITE-ON DVD Burner XSPC Raystorm Extreme Universal CPU Watercoolin... 
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EVGA GTX 680 Hydro Copper Waterblock Lamptron FC8 Fan Controller GELID Solutions Gamer Fan WING 12 Blue UV x 4 Windows 7 Ultimate 
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SteelSeries Merc Stealth OCZ Fatal1ty 1000W Individually-Sleeved Modular... NZXT SWITCH 810 Gun-Metal PPCS Luxury Single Braided Cold Cathode Kit - U... 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-2600K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 G.SKILL Sniper 4x4 F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 WD7501AALS Caviar Black WD5002AALX Caviar Black Lite-On iHAS124-04 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua NH-D14 Silverstone AP121-L x 6 Win 7 64bit HP ZR2440w 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ozone Gaming Gear Strike Mechanical Gaming Keyb... SeaSonic X Series X-850 SilverStone Temjin Series SST-TJ04B-EW Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired L... 
Mouse PadMouse Pad
Zowie Gear G-TF Speed e-Sport Gaming Mouse Pad Ratzpad 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-3770K ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 EVGA 02G-P4-2683-KR GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7... Lite-On iHAS124-04 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64 bit HP ZR2440w  CM Storm QuickFire Rapid SGK-4000-GKCL1-US SeaSonic X-850 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
AZZA Genesis 9000 CSAZ-9000B Logictech G9x Zowie G-TF Spawn 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-3770K ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 EVGA 02G-P4-2683-KR GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 256GB SATA III WD VelociRaptor 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA... LITE-ON DVD Burner XSPC Raystorm Extreme Universal CPU Watercoolin... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EVGA GTX 680 Hydro Copper Waterblock Lamptron FC8 Fan Controller GELID Solutions Gamer Fan WING 12 Blue UV x 4 Windows 7 Ultimate 
KeyboardPowerCaseOther
SteelSeries Merc Stealth OCZ Fatal1ty 1000W Individually-Sleeved Modular... NZXT SWITCH 810 Gun-Metal PPCS Luxury Single Braided Cold Cathode Kit - U... 
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