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Hey guys,

I'm looking for a new pump to go with an aquacomputer aqualis. It's either between a D5 or this mcp355 http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swiftechmcp355.html

From what I've read there seems to be a lot of variations of ddc's some good some not so good. I ran the D5 before at full speed and was happy with the sound for a reference. Will that pump be ok or should I just stick with the D5?

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D5 is a bit better than the 355. But its hard to tell because you didnt list how many blocks/rads you have in the system.
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post #3 of 10
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Just one gpu and cpu and a 360 so either pump will be more that enough. I'm leaning towards the mcp355 because of it's size but i'm mostly interested in noise/reliability.
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355 is louder than the 655. It is also more prone to fail than they 655
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post #5 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuganater View Post

355 is louder than the 655. It is also more prone to fail than they 655

I mounted my MCP355/Laing DDC on a silicone pad with zip-ties and I couldn't hear it if I tried. Dead silent.
(just grabbed some silicone sealant from Home Depot and made a square of it in a baking pan)
Never got all of it off that baking pan though...
The difference is power and lifetime.
Edited by Powermonkey500 - 10/22/12 at 9:00am
post #6 of 10
There is a nice comparison table at Sidewinder Computers. If you can afford it, consider the 35x with the PWM so you can control speed easier, which affects both noise and heat. But all the Laing pumps will work fine for your loop. Good luck. smile.gif
    
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No mcp35x I'm afraid since I'm mounting it to an Aqualis. Anyone know if the 355 is louder than the D5 at full blast? I usually run my fans at 1000rpm or less and the pump will be suspended from the res.

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Originally Posted by EnticingSausage View Post

No mcp35x I'm afraid since I'm mounting it to an Aqualis. Anyone know if the 355 is louder than the D5 at full blast? I usually run my fans at 1000rpm or less and the pump will be suspended from the res.
Thanks guys +rep

I believe the 355 is louder. But like I said, with a proper mount / vibration pad, you can make up for it.
post #9 of 10
Personally I'd grab one of the cheap ddc-1t's that bmaverik sells.
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Personally I'd grab one of the cheap ddc-1t's that bmaverik sells.

The D5 is quieter than the 355, but the head-pressure of the D5 is really lacking vs the DDC series. The Vario speed D5 helps with noise too.

Yes, pump isolation is needed for all pumps really. The DDC series offer the best due to it's size for isolation. The D5 is big and bulky.

Now, not all WCing loops are the same nor identical. With that said, trapped air, tubing restrictions due to too much length and pump cavitation can all add noise to the pump no matter what brand is selected.

My loop has two (2) DDC-1T pumps with XSPC performance tops, in series, sitting on a open-cell like sponge. No noise what-so-ever. Of course, the pumps are feed via a 1-gallon RES. The RES sits 4 inches higher than the pumps (volume weight a plus), thus gravity to help prevent cavitation trapped air issues.
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