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Feeling bad for those people who went with Nvidia this time around. The 680 is An inferior product in several aspects;
7970 came out first. 7970 scales better with overclocking. 7970 has unlocked voltages. 7970 has 3gb of vram. 7970 is cheaper. And now 7970 has better performance across the board. WIn win win win win win.
But wait! what about power draw? LOL at that argument.
Nvidia has stuff like CUDA, PhysX. Thats why people buy Nvidia.
The argument can go both ways.
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Feeling bad for those people who went with Nvidia this time around. The 680 is An inferior product in several aspects;

7970 came out first. 7970 scales better with overclocking. 7970 has unlocked voltages. 7970 has 3gb of vram. 7970 is cheaper. And now 7970 has better performance across the board. WIn win win win win win.

But wait! what about power draw? LOL at that argument.

To be fair, power draw is a big thing to some people.

Yes, I know the irony of that statement when my main CPU was a Bulldozer and my main GPU was a Fermi.
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Feeling bad for those people who went with Nvidia this time around. The 680 is An inferior product in several aspects;
7970 came out first. 7970 scales better with overclocking. 7970 has unlocked voltages. 7970 has 3gb of vram. 7970 is cheaper. And now 7970 has better performance across the board. WIn win win win win win.
But wait! what about power draw? LOL at that argument.
Nvidia has stuff like CUDA, PhysX. Thats why people buy Nvidia.
The argument can go both ways.

I've only ever really used PhysX, and even then that was more "Hey, I have a spare 9800GTX+ laying around and a spare PCIe slot with enough spare power on my PSU to use it..Lets try it!" which is what I also imagine most people to be like, niche arguments at best for most consumers especially since Photoshop, etc use OpenCL now and Quicksync is superior for video transcoding.
    
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To be fair, power draw is a big thing to some people.
Yes, I know the irony of that statement when my main CPU was a Bulldozer and my main GPU was a Fermi.
I've only ever really used PhysX, and even then that was more "Hey, I have a spare 9800GTX+ laying around and a spare PCIe slot with enough spare power on my PSU to use it..Lets try it!" which is what I also imagine most people to be like, niche arguments at best for most consumers especially since Photoshop, etc use OpenCL now and Quicksync is superior for video transcoding.

Is the power draw like very little difference like less then 30W? When Nvidia had the power hungry Fermi nobody from nvidia said anything.
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Is the power draw like very little difference like less then 30W? When Nvidia had the power hungry Fermi nobody from nvidia said anything.



Link is in the picutre. Since Tahiti can be run at much higher OC voltage and is a much larger chip, Kepler's advantage will be bigger when both running at Max OC.
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Wow, I am a huge Nvidia fanboy, but it seems AMD has really changed their game...

Not gonna lie, my next cards are def going to be AMD at this rate.
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Is the power draw like very little difference like less then 30W? When Nvidia had the power hungry Fermi nobody from nvidia said anything.



Link is in the picutre. Ghz Bios does increase Consumption quite a bit. Since Tahiti can be run at much higher OC voltage and is a much larger chip, Kepler's advantage will be bigger when both running at Max OC.

Quite a bit? 13watts is not quite a bit unless you're talking mobile.
    
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Quite a bit? 13watts is not quite a bit unless you're talking mobile.

Was looking at 7950 vs 7970 Ghz when I wrote that, and you are right 13 Watt isn't much.
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Its nice to see AMD pick up where they have been slacking for many years. Drivers. Something Nvidia has been doing all along, so they wont have anything to counter this except a whole new GPU. If AMD did this with the release of 7000 it would of really put some hurt on Nvidia as for gamer sales.
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Just got a SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 to replace my Crossfire HD6950 setup.

Using the 12.11 beta drivers (no overclock):
Idling at 500/1250 - 40 c - 0.947 V while browsing

If I apply my stable overclock (1100/1400 +20 board power limit) using TRIXX:
Idling at 500/1400 - 44 c - 1.244 V while browsing

So just applying the overclock spikes the voltage at idle. This is the known issue?

If I run Furmark or 3DMark the voltage actually drops to what I would expect while hitting max clock speeds (1100).

edit: The issue exists in the 12.10 driver as well for me... :shrug:
Edited by Jard - 10/27/12 at 6:32am
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Nvidia has stuff like CUDA, PhysX. Thats why people buy Nvidia.
The argument can go both ways.

I'm not so sure PhysX is as much of a game changer as people on gaming forums (I'll graciously lump OCN into that category as -- let's be totally honest here -- the majority of users here have gaming performance as their #1 priority when choosing cards) make it out to be. Sure, it's a bonus feature, but it's not as relevant as CUDA, which still has a nice foothold in the professional market. That being said, seeing companies like Adobe moving to OpenCL (MPE already does OpenCL in Premiere CS6 with the right supported GPU) is a telltale sign that as programmers become more fluent in OpenCL it will ultimately mark the death of CUDA on C. It will take a while for this to happen, and in the meantime if you utilize applications that do parallel compute using CUDA there's no choice but Nvidia. I am happy to use AMD cards at home where they serve a more limited purpose, but for my renders and CAD in the office, NV is the only game in town. I wish people would be a little less short-sighted in that regard, and realize that you can buy whatever you want as long as it fits your need(s).
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