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Well not my fault you can't articulate an argument. AMD's drivers should have had this boost a while ago, as well as less bugs a while ago but didnt, and benchmarks show evidently 7970 and 680 go toe to toe in gaming benchmarks, seeing as synthetic benchmarks really don't matter.
Fanboy less, articulate more.
My argument is quite clear. The constant "AMD drivers suck" comments have zero evidence to back them. I "articulated" that quite well. If you can't comprehend something so simple, that's not my problem.

The fanboyism is on the other side of the argument. Fact checks are neutral.
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I find it rather funny that nvidia owners are now trying to find anything they can to save their GTX 680 and 670's, but the fact remains that the HD 7970 Ghz Ed. is the reigning king, and the original 7970 now goes toe-to-toe with (and usually wins against) the GTX 680... all while costing substantially less money.

I bet the driver guys at AMD are laughing hard right now. This is what happens when a company takes a mid-line architecture and tries to vault it to the high-end of the spectrum. Eventually, the true high-end hardware wins out in one way or another. In this case, the high-end takes the lead on everything while costing less. Good job AMD. thumb.gif
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Due these new drivers I'm starting to seriously think about ditching my below average clocking 670 for 7950 or 7970. There's just not much fun left in Kepler overclocking when it's so limited and performance scaling isn't that good. I think I would still get pretty good price for my card, at least enough to buy brand new 7950 or used 7970. I would miss Nvidia Control Panel though, IMO AMD CCC sucks compared to it.
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post #144 of 232
Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeles View Post

My argument is quite clear. The constant "AMD drivers suck" comments have zero evidence to back them. I "articulated" that quite well. If you can't comprehend something so simple, that's not my problem.
The fanboyism is on the other side of the argument. Fact checks are neutral.

You didnt even specify anything, you just quoted someone who presented 2 arguments, and said "this has no facts"

AMD driver support is terrible. End of story, don't agree, pretend to call in and say you have a problem. Do it. The UI is better, theres just more bugs. How the hell is this even in dispute its well known.

Fanboy harder.

Edit: Oh and btw, don't even bother going down the fanboy road on me, it will backfire on you. thumb.gif
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post #145 of 232
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You didnt even specify anything, you just quoted someone who presented 2 arguments, and said "this has no facts"
AMD driver support is terrible. End of story, don't agree, pretend to call in and say you have a problem. Do it. The UI is better, theres just more bugs. How the hell is this even in dispute its well known.
Fanboy harder.
Edit: Oh and btw, don't even bother going down the fanboy road on me, it will backfire on you. thumb.gif
It's quite obvious to anybody with an iota of intelligence as to which statement I was referring to. You're not new here, so you can't play that card. You're just being obnoxious.

You're the one passing off a cliche with zero factual backing as a fact. I am not a fanboy. You are just rhetorically illiterate.

You have no facts to prove your assertion. And what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. If you repeat a lie a million times, it doesn't become the truth.

Once again, fact checks are neutral. There's no bias here.
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Not sure if I made mistake buying my 580 Lightning when I could get a 7870 for a bit more (580 was very chipo and was ~10% better then 7870)

hmm
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Don't feed troll. biggrin.gif
post #148 of 232
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http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD_Catalyst_12.11_Beta4_dotNET4.exe
beta 4 is out now

Just curious, but are there any differences between the "official" beta and this? I always pick the newer driver, but it's nice to see release notes.
    
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Guys both are good ,I said it in the past, AMD issue are linking the software to hardware,I think the gpu division did a very good job on this version.any know if I use AMD gpu color does it do these wcs opencl gpgpu style?or the old wcs CPU way?
Edited by drbaltazar - 10/25/12 at 9:09am
post #150 of 232
As somebody who owns both AMD and Nvidia GPUs (most recent, HD5830 & HD7950, GTX460 1GB) I'm one of the minority uniquely placed to make objective observations about drivers on both sides, so here we go;

AMD:

1 year ago, their drivers were absolutely horrible, BSODs for no reason, fixing bugs only to have old bugs reoccur, a "good" driver (that is to say, current -at the time- and old bugs were fixed) only seemed to arise every 6-8 months.

Fast forward 1 year and we have the Cats 12.9 and 12.11 drivers, two astonishingly good sets of drivers, fast and pretty bug free, particularly the latter. I hope the good form continues for as long as the Radeon exists.

Nvidia:

1 year ago, their drivers were extremely good, far fewer problems than AMDs drivers (no BSODs and no bugs to speak of - at least for me), a good driver seemed to be every release.

Fast forward 1 year, the drivers are a bit flaky and hit & miss sometimes, but still fairly good. However, nvidia don't seem to of really made any effort to improve performance for the 600 Series, that, or the 600 series as I have always thought were midrange cards vaulted to highend because they "done the job" against the 7850/70 and the 7950/70, and thus had no more performance to give either with drivers or even overclocking.

So, as of TODAY with the most recent drivers from both sides, who has the edge? The answer to that is staring you in the face - its AMD. There is one final HOWEVER though, in terms of if you are a true enthusiast and modder, you are likely going to be very unhappy about there not being a vBIOS modding tool available for the HD7 Series cards (still..) in which case you would probably be happier with a 670 or 680, assuming you can get one at a decent price.
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