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I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

My buddy is building a PC with a $600 budget. I'll ask for your help because I don't know much about hardware.

Budget Range: $550 - $600 -> Including shipping but not rebates. He's willing to go a bit above that but not too much.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, , "Photoshoping" frequently, Programming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Microcenter

Parts Preferences:

CPU: Intel (AMD is okay)
GPU: No preference
Case: Cooler Master, Antec, suggestions are welcome

Overclocking: CPU, No; GPU, Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, in the future. PSU will be replaced of course.

Monitor Resolution: 1366 x 768

No parts have been picked out yet, he'd just like something that will suit his needs at this price. Also, if possible, he wants room for upgrades, but it's not necessary.

EDIT
(here is what he came up with, feel free to make suggestions)

CPU: Core i3 3220 3.30GHz LGA 1155 Boxed Processor - $109.99 (Microcenter)

Motherboard:

Memory:

GPU:
Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 256-bit CrossfireX Ready Card - $149.99 (Newegg)
OR
Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz OC Edition 1GB GDDR5 128-bit Card - $129.99 (Newegg)

PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W Active PFC Power Supply - $59.99 (Newegg)

HDD:

Optical Drive:

Case:

(will continue to add as he fills me in)
Edited by someguy543 - 10/22/12 at 2:30am
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Hi someguy,

Here's what I came up with, it's a bit over budget but meets a lot of the requirements very well..


CPU/MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1081158
I3-3220 Ivy Bridge Dual core with Hyper-threading: This is a good middle-man position between the Pentium options, and the almighty i5 that is a little tough to work into this budget. This chip does deliver superb Photoshop performance even though it is a dual core. Also, interestingly enough, it performs on par in gaming with AMD quads that are overclocked to 4-5GHZ while using about 1/3rd the power.
ASRock Z77 Extreme3: With the $25 combo special, it's feasible to have a proper SLI/CFX board in this build, so that is what I have done here. This approach is unnecessary IMO, but may buy some piece of mind. This MOBO can easily be used to move up to an i5 or i7 and overclock them. This is about the least expensive board you can buy that has a proper 8x8x PCIE slot configuration for proper dual GPU solutions.

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999
HD7850 2GB: This is Crossfire capable, but will stand on it's own very well.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461
G.Skill Sniper 1.25V 1600-9-9-9: With $8 promo code, this is only $40, which, for the money, is well worth it. Not that you will likely need to OC the memory, but, if you wanted to you could hit some crazy clocks with this. If nothing else, the "rated" speeds and voltage means you are guaranteed a lot of headroom to produce stability at a wide range of possible settings. You know you're getting some high quality, top binned ICs when it is rated to run those speeds at such low voltages.

Case/PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1080899
The 450W PSU in the combo above can handle a dual HD7850, with mildly OCed GPUs, on an i3, just fine. It's a top notch unit with as much power available on the 12V rail as many 550W units.

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767
Use $25 off promo code.

Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136247
Use free shipping promo code

That's about $633 shipped.



Another approach that I think would be appropriate, would be to cut back on the CPU/GPU/MOBO area, and work on getting a faster hard drive into the machine. Either, a 256GB SSD, or a single platter 1TB mechy drive. Let me know if you'd like suggestions along these lines. A good SSD drive would have a noteworthy impact on photoshop performance if your friend works with lots of larger files.
Edited by mdocod - 10/22/12 at 3:05am
     
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Originally Posted by mdocod View Post

Another approach that I think would be appropriate, would be to cut back on the CPU/GPU/MOBO area, and work on getting a faster hard drive into the machine. Either, a 256GB SSD, or a single platter 1TB mechy drive. Let me know if you'd like suggestions along these lines. A good SSD drive would have a noteworthy impact on photoshop performance if your friend works with lots of larger files.

Yes, I think working a bit more into that area would be good for his work. Let me know what you come up with then we can compare the options.

Maybe CFX isn't necessary if the 7850 can stand on its own.
Edited by someguy543 - 10/22/12 at 4:29am
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I suggest an i3-3225 paired with any of the Intel boards on this magazine:

http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/1673c8ec#/1673c8ec/28

The ASRock Z77 Extreme4 would do quite good for this budget build. 

Microcenter offers $50 off for this combo (or any other Intel motherboard listed on that page).

Pair that with the HD 7850 mdocod suggested and you'll have a pretty good for the money gaming machine.

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Would there be any reason to use AMD for this build? The Phenom X4's come at a very good price and are quad core. The only issue with this is that these are quite old and might show their age quite soon. Would the FX series be a better choice?

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX

MODIFIED BUILD - Based on the cut back on CPU/MOBO/GPU suggestion

CPU Intel Core i3 - 3220 Dual Core with Hyperthreading - 109.99 (Microcenter)
Mobo Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX Motherboard - 69.99 (Newegg) Is this a reliable board?
GPU Sapphire HD 7850 2GB
Memory G.Skill Sniper 1.25V 1600-9-9-9
Case/PSU Combo Rosewill Challenger w/ PSU
SSD Suggestions?
HD The suggested Barracuda drive
Optical LG - 15.99 (Newegg)
Edited by someguy543 - 10/22/12 at 6:28am
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I'd have to say go with the Phenom. They still are great CPUs for the price, and keep up with today's standards. For a budget build, AMD CPUs always are the best, in my opinion. Also, that specific Phenom is a Black Edition, which means it can very easily be overclocked to 3.6-3.8 just with multipliers. I don't know if either of you feel comfortable with that, but just thought I'd point that out. Good luck with your build. thumb.gif

PS Another thing I'd like to mention is that the HD 7770 is a great budget GPU. It's what I have in mine, and I am very happy with it. It does everything I've asked it to on max, or near-max settings.
Edited by knd775 - 10/22/12 at 7:03am
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I'd have to say go with the Phenom. They still are great CPUs for the price, and keep up with today's standards. For a budget build, AMD CPUs always are the best, in my opinion. Also, that specific Phenom is a Black Edition, which means it can very easily be overclocked to 3.6-3.8 just with multipliers. I don't know if either of you feel comfortable with that, but just thought I'd point that out. Good luck with your build. thumb.gif
PS Another thing I'd like to mention is that the HD 7770 is a great budget GPU. It's what I have in mine, and I am very happy with it. It does everything I've asked it to on max, or near-max settings.

Thanks for the advice, I'll update the original post tomorrow. I'll do some more research too.

Anyway, one complaint I've been hearing is that the 7770 is the worst of the 7xxx series and gets bottlenecked because it's 128bit. I've heard the 6850 is better. What do you think?
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For starters, the CX 500 V2 is a ripoff at $60. The Antec NEO ECO 450C soundly outperforms it for less price.

Since you are able to purchase at Microcenter.... you cannot beat the value of those 1045T bundles. It is not possible to get a more consistent experience. The 1045T gives him the flexibility to multitask like a pro with more true cores and also code for more cores like programmers should.

Get a 78LMT-S2P + 1045T combo (make sure they give you a rev 3.1 board for best reliability) and slap on
8GB of DDR3-1600 for $30
the NEO ECO for $37 shipped (link above)
The Antec ONE for $40 shipped
This 7850 for $182 shipped
This 1TB HDD for $70 shipped
DVD drive
Top it off with the very thing that will make this combination unbeatable: an OCZ Agility 3 180GB SSD
$595 shipped
Edited by xd_1771 - 10/22/12 at 9:33am
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A good SSD drive would have a noteworthy impact on photoshop performance if your friend works with lots of larger files.

From my understanding, HD speed is irrelevant in photoshop once the program/file is loaded. Can someone confirm/deny this?
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How about this combo on Newegg and a 7770?

i5 3450
Crucial Ballistix 1600MHz (2 x 4GB)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB
Cooler Master HAF 912
Cooler Master eXtreme 550W
Gigabyte GA-B75M
MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz edition

That comes out to $597 plus only $13 shipping (where I live).
Edited by Mr357 - 10/22/12 at 2:33pm
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