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Hello!

I'm looking for a 5.1 home cinema system with blu ray to replace my Sony DAV DZ260
I have found 2 that i like but can not find any decent reviews on either of them

These are the two

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007YDP1IM/ref=asc_df_B007YDP1IM10142008?linkCode=asn&tag=reevoocomexr-21&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B007YDP1IM&smid=AZ5FVIF249XIQ

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-SC-BTT490EBK-Blu-ray-Cinema-System/dp/B007RTY4SQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_8

Which one is better ? and why?

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Its usually best to get the head unit and the bluray player separate as if the player dies normally you're screwed. But a piece by piece system will definitely be more expensive in the long run.

I have a sony setup and it works really well granted it still uses coaxial and Optical Tos cables for the good 5.1 surround to work.
 
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In general I love Pioneer components (although not their HTIB stuff which this is) but I would have to agree with terraprime on this and would even go so far as to caution against any all-in-one solutions - at least in home theater (or theatre on your side of the pond I believe).

I get the idea that you're on a limited budget (aren't we all these days) and you want something now - but from my experience you'll be much happier in the long run looking for higher quality components as separates... even if it means buying 2nd hand equipment. In addition to an amplifier section that can handle a speaker upgrade down the road when (not if) you decide you need a little more impact in your movies... you will also have a system that can change with technology in phases rather than having to all be replaced at once - not to mention if something fails it all fails - as terraprime said already.

You know what you ultimately want and will be happy with much better than I do... but as with anything audio - you really need to HEAR each system to make a good determination. If you can't do that, and aren't interested in anything other than something to get you through the next couple years - then just pick the one that's got the features you're more likely to use... if you have all of your CD's ripped to lossless FLAC... get the Pioneer. If you want to use your iPhone/iPad to control & stream video and audio to your system - get the Panasonic.

All in all I think the Panasonic setup is the better buy - but without HEARING either of them it is impossible to say. Pioneer has a long history designing speakers as well as electronic components - they make speakers that cost more than some cars - Panasonic doesn't have that pedigree. On the other hand neither of these rigs will have speakers that are very accurate or powerful... so it probably doesn't matter.
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for $350 US you can find an used pioneer elite, if you have a ps3, it will suffice as a blueray player, and you could probably find a 5.1 speaker system within that cost range. as stated otherwise, just about every HTiB is pretty terrible if you are into hi-fi audio, but pending on the quality of sound you want/need it might be perfect for you.

between those two i'd say snag the panasonic as you can purchase the additional wireless transmitter to work your rears without having to run speaker wire directly from the head unit. it's also DLNA compatible so you can just load a dlna server onto your pc and stream music and movies.

form factor wise tower rears usually don't look that great, so having a couple small bookshelf rears is more visually appealing.
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Its usually best to get the head unit and the bluray player separate as if the player dies normally you're screwed. But a piece by piece system will definitely be more expensive in the long run.
I have a sony setup and it works really well granted it still uses coaxial and Optical Tos cables for the good 5.1 surround to work.

I have a spare blu ray player anyway just incase.
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In general I love Pioneer components (although not their HTIB stuff which this is) but I would have to agree with terraprime on this and would even go so far as to caution against any all-in-one solutions - at least in home theater (or theatre on your side of the pond I believe).
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You know what you ultimately want and will be happy with much better than I do... but as with anything audio - you really need to HEAR each system to make a good determination. If you can't do that, and aren't interested in anything other than something to get you through the next couple years - then just pick the one that's got the features you're more likely to use... if you have all of your CD's ripped to lossless FLAC... get the Pioneer. If you want to use your iPhone/iPad to control & stream video and audio to your system - get the Panasonic.
All in all I think the Panasonic setup is the better buy - but without HEARING either of them it is impossible to say. Pioneer has a long history designing speakers as well as electronic components - they make speakers that cost more than some cars - Panasonic doesn't have that pedigree. On the other hand neither of these rigs will have speakers that are very accurate or powerful... so it probably doesn't matter.

I know that replacing all in ones can be hard and that if something breaks i'm pretty screwed, but I have had a look at seperates and do not know whch speakers go with which amps and I have no idea what brands to go for etc, hence why I go for all in ones, if you can point me to an amp and speakers that can handle HD sound and have optical inputs for my PC and TV and be in my price range then I would gladly buy a seperates set up.

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for $350 US you can find an used pioneer elite, if you have a ps3, it will suffice as a blueray player, and you could probably find a 5.1 speaker system within that cost range. as stated otherwise, just about every HTiB is pretty terrible if you are into hi-fi audio, but pending on the quality of sound you want/need it might be perfect for you.
between those two i'd say snag the panasonic as you can purchase the additional wireless transmitter to work your rears without having to run speaker wire directly from the head unit. it's also DLNA compatible so you can just load a dlna server onto your pc and stream music and movies.
form factor wise tower rears usually don't look that great, so having a couple small bookshelf rears is more visually appealing.

As I said I know about the cons of all in ones, but I have no idea what speakers go with certain amps, if you can point me in a good direction - within my budget then I'd gladly buy a seperates system because I already have a blu ray player, I only need the speakers and amp to actually be able to use blu ray hd sound smile.gif if I can't find one then I'll go for the Panasonic due to the features.
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for audio system the most eligant one is the PIONEER brand or BOSCH..... thumb.gif
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for audio system the most eligant one is the PIONEER brand or BOSCH..... thumb.gif

What wattage?
With what speakers ?

My current one is 850w but I don't know if that matters
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the sony link didn't pull up the specific reciever for me. as far as the speakers those are rated by the description at 4ohm and that will generally carry a heftier price tag for a good reciever. try a vsx41, can get one for around $300 or a higher end pioneer (non elite) in the same range of $200-$300, and some 8 ohm speakers.

you don't want to put 4ohms on an 8 ohm rated amp as it will pull too much current.
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ok, you dont need to stress so much about matching speakers to an amp as most of the lower end speakers will work fine with a receiver.

Just look for 8ohm speakers and you will be fine...this is the majority of speakers in your price range.
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