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Like in many other cases like this it looks like the gov representatives need to find a scapegoat. Which they did successfully.
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It's nice to know that Europe, deep down, is just as crazy and superstitious as the US. Possibly even more so given the circumstance.
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I cannot find a single reason as to why these scientists were tried, convicted, and sentenced. Science has never been an art of absolutes. It's always been about probabilities and predictions. There are scientific laws, but when you bring mother nature into the equation, you can throw those laws out the window. Nature is inherently unpredictable (at least, at this time, we lack the understanding to make 100% accurate predictions) so to treat these scientists, who are probably absolutely brilliant people, as criminals is simply put "A crime against humanity."

I hope the judge and jury (if there was one) that sentenced these scientists to their jail term will be forced to serve the term in their place. This is completely unacceptable!
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Wow, now we're jailing scientists for not being able to predict everything? How ignorant.
    
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Moral of the story: don't work in Italy.
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No, I'm just a bit shocked that if they did it, why are 5K scientists supporting them?

If they indeed falsified data and its been proven that these 5K "scientiest" are clueless - prolly just skimmed the title and signed on the dotted line. It's a serious crime in science to "tweak" the data and the ones caught doing it have no business in science after that. Or - well - some might be aware but signing on principle as for such prediction 6 years is seriously overdoing it. Scientific community is sort of like inquisition and being caught in "tweaking" data is like throwing a bucketful of blood into a pool full of sharks. You can bet your head on it that every piece paper you have ever written will be taken apart after such thing and closely scrutinized.

There are not many things in the world for what your scientific degree can be taken away. Forgining data and plagiarizim .. and .. umm .. I think thats about it. You can be (totally) crazy but as long as you dont forge data or plagiarize no one can take your degree away.
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No, I'm just a bit shocked that if they did it, why are 5K scientists supporting them?

If they indeed falsified data and its been proven that these 5K "scientiest" are clueless - prolly just skimmed the title and signed on the dotted line. It's a serious crime in science to "tweak" the data and the ones caught doing it have no business in science after that. Or - well - some might be aware but signing on principle as for such prediction 6 years is seriously overdoing it. Scientific community is sort of like inquisition and being caught in "tweaking" data is like throwing a bucketful of blood into a pool full of sharks. You can bet your head on it that every piece paper you have ever written will be taken apart after such thing and closely scrutinized.

There are not many things in the world for what your scientific degree can be taken away. Forgining data and plagiarizim .. and .. umm .. I think thats about it. You can be bat**** crazy but as long as you dont forge data or plagiarize no one can take your degree away.
Tesla was crazy.
Where did that get him? lol

But I doubt 5K scientists would be naive enough.
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It's nice to know that Europe, deep down, is just as crazy and superstitious as the US. Possibly even more so given the circumstance.

No, just Italy being dumb.
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How does this require discussion? Blame chance or God. What did they set it off or something? This requires undisplayable words...
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Tesla was crazy.
Where did that get him?
Where? Becoming the scientific icon of the 20th century? And he wasn't crazy, eccentric at best as any other progressive researcher, and way ahead of his time.
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