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All I did was ask about performance differences and pricing per performance. I wasn't trying to bait anyone as you make it out to be. The proof is right here on OCN. SSDs run better in TRIM mode then in RAID. Look up Seans SSD guide here on OCN. You will see there that i'm correct. I did some research first, now i'm here. I font need to be put down for asking a question.

I think his point was that some controllers can now pass the TRIM command to drives in RAID.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/intel-brings-trim-to-raid0-ssd-arrays-on-7series-motherboards-we-test-it
Edited by Forceman - 10/25/12 at 12:24am
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if you have use for the space, return the 128GB and get the 256GB 830.. it defiantly has the better price per performance ratio.. 256GB + SSD's are faster than 128GB by specs and bechmarking tho not real world difference.. but cheaper than buying a two128GB hence price per performance smile.gif one drive is better than two in RAID 0 anyway as less chance of data lose or integrity smile.gif
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post #13 of 22
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Here read this. Post 8, he talks about raids and ssd. http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread/0_100#post_15860070

If there are drives that pass trim into raid arrays, I don't know of them. And in no way was that implied in his response. If there are, id be glad to learn of them. Otherwise, dude needs to calm down. I think he also hit the flag button on me because I couldn't log in for an hour.
post #14 of 22
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Here read this. Post 8, he talks about raids and ssd. http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread/0_100#post_15860070
If there are drives that pass trim into raid arrays, I don't know of them. And in no way was that implied in his response. If there are, id be glad to learn of them. Otherwise, dude needs to calm down. I think he also hit the flag button on me because I couldn't log in for an hour.

Did you see my link? It now works on Intel 7 series chipsets (as of Aug). So it should work on any drive, since the controller was the limitation before, not the drives.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/intel-brings-trim-to-raid0-ssd-arrays-on-7series-motherboards-we-test-it
Edited by Forceman - 10/25/12 at 1:34am
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if you have use for the space, return the 128GB and get the 256GB 830.. it defiantly has the better price per performance ratio.. 256GB + SSD's are faster than 128GB by specs and bechmarking tho not real world difference.. but cheaper than buying a two128GB hence price per performance smile.gif one drive is better than two in RAID 0 anyway as less chance of data lose or integrity smile.gif

Actually, cheapest I've seen for the Samsung 830 128GB is $69 while the 256GB is $149. RAID-0 of 2x128GB would be cheaper than a single 256GB SSD (assuming you make use of the MB's built-in RAID and don't buy a separate RAID card). Another thing, assuming you don't need the entire 256GB of space in the RAID array, you can set aside space for over-provisioning (the bigger, the better) to alleviate the lack of TRIM.

As for Samsung 840 vs Samsung 830, they already trade blows (based on reviews of the 250/256GB model). Samsung 840 is faster when it comes to smaller blocks while the Samsung 830 considerably faster in terms of sequential writes (I think around 100-150MB/s faster). Between the 2, I'd definitely recommend the 830 (while you can still buy them).

It's the 840 Pro that's faster than the 830 all around. However, given current price for 840 Pro 128GB is $139 (or was it $149) and lowest price I've seen for 830 256GB is $149, I'd recommend the 830. Since performance scales with capacity, it could very well be that the differences between the 840 Pro 128GB and 830 256GB will be small.
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post #16 of 22
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I decided to go with a single 830 256.

So far Im loving it.

As for TRIM working on a 7 series motherboard, thats great news. NOT for me, but great news as its a sign of forward progress. My motherboard on the other hand is not a 7 series motherboard. Since Im not going to be buying a new motherboard for a long time, I think I might be stuck with no RAID TRIM support., Am I wrong here? I dont think I am. So doing RAID and trying to get TRIM to work is futile.

So in my shoes, if everything makes sense, I can not use TRIM and RAID together. With that option, RAIDing my (non existent) second drive would be pointless. So having 1 256 gb 830, is a better choice then 2x 128 830's. In my current situation. Again, if Im wrong, please let me know.

I paid, $189 for my 256. With a rebate, so Ill pay $139 when its done.

Sorry Forceman, I did not. I was doing most of this from my cell phone last night, and I didnt see any of the links you posted as I fell alseep.

I did read thru those pages, Forceman. I see what your saying. My issue is that I dont have a series 7 mobo.
post #17 of 22
I think you'll be very happy with the single 256GB 803. It's a fantastic drive.
post #18 of 22
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I am already. The load times of everything is a 1/4 of what it was, and shen I hit sleep, before my hand is off the mouse, its off. Scary fast. IMMA LOVIN IT! biggrin.gif

Now Im thinking about taking my vertex turbo and droping it in the laptop. Im sure it would benefit. Its only a 64 gb drive, but the current 120 gb drive is less then 20% full. Its also running XP. Will XP on an SSD be an issue?
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I am already. The load times of everything is a 1/4 of what it was, and shen I hit sleep, before my hand is off the mouse, its off. Scary fast. IMMA LOVIN IT! biggrin.gif

Now Im thinking about taking my vertex turbo and droping it in the laptop. Im sure it would benefit. Its only a 64 gb drive, but the current 120 gb drive is less then 20% full. Its also running XP. Will XP on an SSD be an issue?
Sweet, for windows xp you just need to manually align the partition on the SSD as Windows XP misaligns it upon installaton.
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Here read this. Post 8, he talks about raids and ssd. http://www.overclock.net/t/1179518/seans-ssd-buyers-guide-information-thread/0_100#post_15860070
If there are drives that pass trim into raid arrays, I don't know of them. And in no way was that implied in his response. If there are, id be glad to learn of them. Otherwise, dude needs to calm down. I think he also hit the flag button on me because I couldn't log in for an hour.

Why would I hit the spam button for? And it would have nothing to do with you logging in here to begin with. Again that is something to do with you and your pc. You can apologize any time now though. And I have a name as no one likes to be referred as "Dude". But glad you are enjoying your ssd. Thanks
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