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Dont use a dead socket. Use FM2 so you have an upgrade path
Do not use ram that is under 1600mhz when using the apus IGPU. it bottle necks the crap out of it.
Do not trust that HDD. try to stay to WD or Seagate

Samsung spinpoint f3's trump WD and seagate. Its a respected HDD.
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post #52 of 66
FM2 beats FM1, as far as I am concerned.
Spend $30-40 for an Antec or Corsair power supply on special.
Amazon has the NZXT Source 210 for $40 shipped, looks good, works well for the price
BitFenix Merc Alpha should be good.

Avoid the Rosewill R263-M-BK W/ 400 Watt PSU. bad PSU, Case probably bad.

Alternate choices.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/A8-5600K-vs-Pentium-G2120-CPU-Review/1656
post #53 of 66
try this

It came out to $460 after rebate(s), including Windows 7 which is $100 unless you steal it. devil.gif
IMO for storage you can always throw in an older mechanical drive, pickup one later, or use an external for storing music movies etc.

Ah ballz. Switch the mobo to:
Asus F2A85-M/CSM Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard
Total comes to $518 but the hyper 212 is $25 so...
Edited by DaFirnz - 10/25/12 at 11:26pm
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Please see the link to the benchmark comparing the drive you selected to the Intel 330 (and keep in mind, the samsung drive would be even faster). The drive you suggested does NOT read and write at 550MB/s. OCZ uses a very misleading way of representing their drives. The drive you suggested has average write speeds of ~60-120MB/s, and average read speeds around 60-160MB/s. By todays standards, this is a dismal performance not even capable of saturating SATA II, let alone SATA III.
Memory timings within normal ranges have nothing to do with any perceptible snappiness. If you believe this is the case, then you have experienced a placebo effect or are a very sophisticated robot from another world. The difference in latency between CAS 7 and CAS 9 on DDR3 1600 is 0.0000000025 seconds. A being that could perceive this difference, would also be able to observe light as it traveled from one side of the room to the other when the switch is thrown.
The only people who believe that sort of blanket statement are blind brand loyal fanboys who go out of their way to avoid the truth. There are good value chips on both sides of the isle for different purposes. If you reject this, then you are going out of your way to avoid the truth in order to reinforce a brand preference. I can't force you to do your homework, but I will point out that if you are a tech, and have been doing this for a long time, then there is ample evidence at this point, that you've been doing it for a long time under a lot of misguided premises.
Eric

Concerning the OCZ drive, got any proof to back up you comments?

As for the rest.... laugh

Like I said sammys use TLC memory.

I find it amusing how all you so called enthusiasts nowadays like to write mini essays in your defensive posts. lol just makes you look dumber. rofl
post #55 of 66
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Dont use a dead socket. Use FM2 so you have an upgrade path
Do not use ram that is under 1600mhz when using the apus IGPU. it bottle necks the crap out of it.
Do not trust that HDD. try to stay to WD or Seagate

Oh, when I was building my rig I heard that samsung F3s were the best around?

Also, they're seagate so they're basicly the same as seagate's HDDs
    
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post #56 of 66
Hi Olskool,

I already posted a link to the proof of the OCZ drive being junk in post #41. Please try to keep up here, I shouldn't have to repeat myself in a place where what is said remains visible.

I'm not sure what you are laughing about but if it helps you shrug off the truth so you can remain in your comfort zone of misinformation, enjoy.

The mini-essays have thoroughly dismantled all of the disinformation and bad suggestions you have shared. Writing a thorough proof of point with examples and links to performance comparisons does not make someone look dumb, rather, it is applauded (thank you big kahuna!). Someone who asks not to be argued with on the basis of claimed experience, who repeatedly shares disinformation... Now that may be a qualifier for the dumb thing biggrin.gif
     
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Well, if I may add to the above, going down from CAS 9 to CAS 7 on DDR3-1600 should add some 400MB/s of bandwidth on AM3 platform/Phenom II processors.

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Thanks for all the posts guys! Some reps have been doled out wink.gif
I got the case today and the rest of the parts for the $420 build are scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I'll post some pictures and maybe some benches as I build it and after installing the os.
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Looking forward to your experience.
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Well, I got the packages from newegg last Thursday and after I got home from work, I worked on the little pc for my boss. Here are some pictures of the parts-

Fractal $40 case
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components-
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Mainboard-
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Processor installed-
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heatsink and ram installed-
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psu-
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ssd-
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Then I installed the psu, odd, and ssd into the case and routed the audio, usb and front panel cables underneath the motherboard.
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Next I installed the motherboard and hooked up the 24 pin and the 4-pin power cables, along with the front panel usb, audio, and power, reset, and activity leds.
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Finally, I only had to use one modular cable for the dvd burner and ssd, and ran the two sata cables to the board, and did some quick cable management. Here's a picture of the system up and running. I installed windows 7 64 bit os and MS security essentials, the motherboard drivers and all the updates. It took me about 4 1/2 hours from start to finish including the software installation and updates.
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It's a pretty snappy little system! Asrock has an instant boot feature which allows for 4 second startup from the time you push the power button to a ready desktop. I used a one button auto overclock which runs the cpu at 4.2 Ghz and have the ram running at 9-10-9-1600 @ 1.5v
With room for 3 more hdd's (one above the ssd, and two on the stock mounting plate) the case proves functional. Also there is tons of unused space below the optical drive area.

My boss was happy with the price and the performance of the build. I think he will be having me build him another or two soon.
Thanks for the help guys!
Edited by bob808 - 11/3/12 at 11:23am
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