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post #41 of 49
10/24/12 at 9:18am
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Was not going to OC at all. But now im wondering, if i keep the stock voltages and just up the cycles from 3.2 to 3.4 or so... That should be safe right? Im going to be water cooled. I dont want to mess with voltages because then you're really messing with the CPU. But clocking it up just a little bit (3.4ghz) might be safe. I hope

The stock turbo should already take the processor to around 3.5ghz, more depending on the situation. By just upping the multi you'll probably reach 4ghz+.
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post #42 of 49
10/24/12 at 9:24am
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Hey mate.
Clock speed alone is not the defining factor of CPU's. Each generations architecture improves, adds features, and expands. A single core Pentium 4 @ 3.4ghz will get creamed in performance by a single core Ivy Bridge (latest Gen) at 1.7ghz (most likely, perhaps depending on situation, my point is made however)
The good thing to know is that ANY 6 core, 12 thread CPU you could possibly be purchasing is an intel i7 (either a 980x/990x or 3930k/3960x) and all of these CPU's are really high end and extremely fast in comparison to your old CPU in every way.
Taking an individual core from your new CPU at 3.2ghz, it will still be a large margin increase faster, I would estimate at about a 200% increase. Not only are there increases in speed associated with this new hardware (compared to your much older generation CPU), but these high end CPU's you are getting have much larger cache's and so forth, plus all the new instructions, newer motherboard platforms which require and take advantage of much higher RAM bandwidth and increased system bus speed, not to mention probably increases as a result of SSD's and so forth.
The new CPU will utterly crush your old rig at absolutely everything, period. And if the task you are performing can make use of all 12 threads, then I would estimate that your new rig will be closer to 15 times faster. Think of 6 of your current CPU's running at 2-3 times faster than now. Like 8ghz? haha. ... seriously, the difference will be laughable. You will literally laugh out loud.

You sir deserve 100 reps for this detailed and accurate explanation.

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10/24/12 at 9:32am
question:is it possible that turbo feature is perceived as a hack a cheat and various software react badly?
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10/25/12 at 1:48pm
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Hi and thanks.
Yes some auto desk inventor and auto cad. Also master cam and surf cam.
Also 3ds with character studio and maya. Also adobe premier, And photoshop. And last but not least games.

Well in that case, you will be amazed at what yours can do thumb.gif
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10/26/12 at 7:22am
Hello Solar71,

For a 2D/3D workstation build, the 3930K is a superb choice if you have no real budget restraints.

If you DO have a "budget" to work in, then the 3930K and water cooling may not be the best choice, as it may very well cut into the budget of other important components and leave the system out of balance performance wise. A good workstation for working in 3D creation/productivity applications should focus first on CPU performance, but should also have a carefully selected workstation class GPU, lots of memory, and of course, fast disk performance.

For a workstation class machine, I wouldn't personally bother with a water cooling system because such a rig should not be overclocked anyway, what you want is repeatable, reliable, consistent computation accuracy over the life of the machine.

As far as the CPU is concerned, something like an E3-1240 V2 makes more sense than a 3930 to me personally, since they are actually sold by intel as workstation/server class chips, and, at 46% of the price and 70% of the performance of a 3930 at stock clocks, are a better value.
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10/26/12 at 9:34am
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Hello Solar71,
For a 2D/3D workstation build, the 3930K is a superb choice if you have no real budget restraints.
If you DO have a "budget" to work in, then the 3930K and water cooling may not be the best choice, as it may very well cut into the budget of other important components and leave the system out of balance performance wise. A good workstation for working in 3D creation/productivity applications should focus first on CPU performance, but should also have a carefully selected workstation class GPU, lots of memory, and of course, fast disk performance.
For a workstation class machine, I wouldn't personally bother with a water cooling system because such a rig should not be overclocked anyway, what you want is repeatable, reliable, consistent computation accuracy over the life of the machine.
As far as the CPU is concerned, something like an E3-1240 V2 makes more sense than a 3930 to me personally, since they are actually sold by intel as workstation/server class chips, and, at 46% of the price and 70% of the performance of a 3930 at stock clocks, are a better value.

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the information.
I have acctually placed the order already. So im not too sure if i can change it now. I did go with the 3930k, 16 gigs of ram and an SSD main / boot drive.
But i did not get a workstation GPU. I purchased an Nvidia GPU x 2 and will use them in SLI mode.

Because i would also like to play some games as well. tongue.gif

Thanks again.
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10/26/12 at 9:45am
Common mistake is assuming that SLI'd consumer gaming GPUs will be beneficial in pro creation apps. For a GPU to provide acceleration to a professional creation application effectively, there often must be specific coding (a profile) in the driver, to support that application. Not only do you NOT get that profile with the consumer driver, you are even less likely to get an SLI profile. Furthermore, many of the accelerated functions that DO work on a consumer card in pro apps, are purposely throttled back by the card BIOS or the driver to prevent you from taking full advantage of the gaming GPU for productive "work."

As it turns out, entry level workstation cards, that would be "hardware wise" considered entry level gaming cards, will absolutely run circles around high end gaming cards in pro applications.

At the end of the day, you should have split your budget and made a gaming rig, and a workstation, the results would be far superior and you would have "rig redundancy."

Basically, the workstation would be an E3 quad w/hyperthreading on something like a GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3P motherboard, in a nice professional looking micro-ATX case, with a FirePro or Quadro GPU depending on the specific apps in question. 32GB RAM. No fancy water cooling jumbo, just quality parts in a quality case.

The gaming rig an i5 "k" on an ASRock Extreme3 with a GTX670. 8GB RAM.
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10/26/12 at 9:52am
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Thanks!!! I will spec out the system as soon as I get it. Lol

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10/26/12 at 12:55pm
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Thanks you guys...

I had a FireGL Pro a long time ago and yes it was nice. but i dont really have the budget to build 2 x PC's
I think it would be hard to build 2 PC's as you mentioned for 2,000$ total. But If I eventually get the raise in salery that im hoping to get, I will be able to purches
any PC or PC's my heart desires. But as of right now I dont make enough $$$ To pay my mortgage + health and car insurance + all the other little bills i have AND buy 2 PC's.
Its just not feasable right now. Maybe in 6-8 months I will be able to save up and get a second PC more Dedicated to a single task.

Thanks
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